Koch to Hayek: Use Social Security!

christiefan915 said:
I guess you didn't read his own words where he criticized SS as being "an instrument for the compulsory redistribution of income...."

Opting in means he had a choice. It means there's a disconnect between his words and his actions. Hypocrisy.
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I think you're confused.....

FACT 1.......Koch is the one that criticized SS
FACT 2.......Koch is not one opting into SS at the time

FACT 3.......Mr. Kayek is the person that 'opted' into the system
FACT 4.......Mr. Kayek did not criticize SS....

The only disconnect is between your reading and comprehension skills.....
 
\(\(=)/)/ said:
What's not new is your refusal to see any hypocrisy in a Koch advising a foreigner to take advantage of American government healthcare...
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Democrats passed the laws and wrote the regulations and requirements....live with it....Koch does and so does everyone else that PAID into the ponzie scheme....
 
\(\(=)/)/ said:
What's not new is your refusal to see any hypocrisy in a Koch advising a foreigner to take advantage of American government healthcare...
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Hey Bravo? Do you think Pinheads started using the name of these Koch Brothers, who no one had ever heard of before, just so they could repeat "COCK" all day? I've been thinking about it, and as simple-minded as they are, it wouldn't surprise me a bit. I think they just like saying "COCK" all the time, and this gives them a good reason... they probably even do the Beavis and Butthead chuckles.... he said cock! uhuu-huu-huuu....

:lmao:
 
Dixie said:
Wow... your debate prowess is too much for me today! ...Over and Out!
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No one can debate with you, moron.
You deny facts and make up your own version as you go along.

Tell me Dix, are the Koch brothers opposed to S.S. or in favor of it?
 
Dixie said:
Hey Bravo? Do you think Pinheads started using the name of these Koch Brothers, who no one had ever heard of before, just so they could repeat "COCK" all day? I've been thinking about it, and as simple-minded as they are, it wouldn't surprise me a bit. I think they just like saying "COCK" all the time, and this gives them a good reason... they probably even do the Beavis and Butthead chuckles.... he said cock! uhuu-huu-huuu....
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Except it's pronounced "Coke".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Koch


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_G._Koch

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bravo said:
I think you're confused.....

FACT 1.......Koch is the one that criticized SS
FACT 2.......Koch is not one opting into SS at the time

FACT 3.......Mr. Kayek is the person that 'opted' into the system
FACT 4.......Mr. Kayek did not criticize SS....

The only disconnect is between your reading and comprehension skills.....
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Wow, you are dim. Go back and read post #5.

These are Hayek's words: "Though all insurance involves a pooling of risks, private competitive insurance can never effect a deliberate transfer of income from one previously designated group to another.

Such a redistribution of income has today become the chief purpose of what is still called social "insurance"-- a misnomer even in the early days of these schemes. When in 1935 the United States introduced the scheme, the term "insurance" was retained-- by "a stroke of promotional genius"-- simply to make it more palatable. From the beginning, it had little to do with insurance and has since lost whatever resemblance to insurance it may ever had had. The same is now true in most of those countries which originally started with something more closely akin to insurance."

Then look at this video.


As usual you didn't do your homework before opening your mouth.
 
No one can debate with you...
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Now that's the most true thing I believe you've ever posted on this board!

Tell me Dix, are the Koch brothers opposed to S.S. or in favor of it?
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I have no idea and could care less. Most conservatives are opposed to keeping the current system, which is failing. Is that what you favor? It sure sounds like it, because every time someone mentions fixing the system, you start screaming and writhing in the floor like a crazy person in fits. Making commercials depicting us rolling granny off the cliff... Conjure up images of old people eating Alpo... etc. No republican or conservative that I am aware of, has ever suggested we completely do away with Social Security, but you morons seem hell-bent on claiming that, while you refuse any suggestion to reform the broken system.

And because people want to REFORM Social Security and the current BROKEN system to something that WILL WORK... doesn't mean they sacrifice their entitled rights to benefits under the current system. This is where you completely lose me, I don't understand how your moronic pinhead brain comes to this conclusion.
 
\(\(=)/)/ said:
Ever heard of Alf Landon, Dix?
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Oooh... oh... wait... let me guess... he's another rich fat capitalist crony of the Koch brothers... in 1958, he forgot to pay an overdue book fine, and one of the KOCK brothers.... well he pulled some favors and had the fine suspended for his rich buddy.... PROVING they are corrupt and evil capitalist HYPOCRITES!


:lmao: This gets funnier by the episode guys.... really, I hope one of you is writing this down, it's comedic gold!
 
Dixie said:
Wasn't he that furry little alien who had a sitcom in the late 80s?
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It's amazing that your ignorance of a subject doesn't seem to prevent you from taking a position on it.

As they say in Alabubba, you're shy of your meat and three.
 
\(\(=)/)/ said:
It's amazing that your ignorance of a subject doesn't seem to prevent you from taking a position on it.

As they say in Alabubba, you're shy of your meat and three.
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Yes I know, I am a stupid capitalist American who doesn't get it... I understand.

What I do understand is the current state of the economy, and the sentiment of a growing chunk of the population. I know you firmly believe that this class warfare strategy is going to be your saving grace, but you will soon realize the level of discontent among the masses. People are fed up with you and liberals attacking rich people... the ONLY people who have the means and capability to get us out of this mess, and turn things around. Your insanity is about to come back to take a chunk out of your ass, and I can hardly wait for it!
 
christiefan915 said:
Wow, you are dim. Go back and read post #5.

These are Hayek's words: "Though all insurance involves a pooling of risks, private competitive insurance can never effect a deliberate transfer of income from one previously designated group to another.

Such a redistribution of income has today become the chief purpose of what is still called social "insurance"-- a misnomer even in the early days of these schemes. When in 1935 the United States introduced the scheme, the term "insurance" was retained-- by "a stroke of promotional genius"-- simply to make it more palatable. From the beginning, it had little to do with insurance and has since lost whatever resemblance to insurance it may ever had had. The same is now true in most of those countries which originally started with something more closely akin to insurance."

Then look at this video.


As usual you didn't do your homework before opening your mouth.
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Why re-read it...the bottom line is, I understand what was said and you don't.... nothing they claim is untrue

Normal Insurance, as in car, life, health, accident, etc. is the voluntary pooling of risks, to insure that should one suffer from misfortune, the buyer is protected....if you don't suffer any misfortune, you DON'T get anything for your purchase..........

The purpose of 'social insurance' is to confiscate, by force of law, from everyone, and give to a designated class of beneficiaries......so it is not insurance at all....it is a transfer of money from one group to another group.....

I'm not condoning or condemning either scenario, I'm explaining it..... .

But all of this irrelevant to the topic of the thread.....
The bottom line of the topic is, a man paid for SS and Medicare and was advised to take advantage of his purchase.....perfectly normal and sane advice whether one agrees with the purchase or not,
It is not hypocritical to advise someone to use what they buy, no matter what you personally think of the purchase

Your left wing spin is just 100% partisan bullshit as are most rants and raves from the left...much ado about nothing...mis-charactization of another's words in order to give credence to a lie...

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Originally Posted by Dixie
I don't believe these men are opposed to the 'institution' known as Social Security
Tell me Dix, are the Koch brothers opposed to S.S. or in favor of it?


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Originally Posted by Dixie
I have no idea and could care less.



Tell me Dix, are you are a liar or a hypocrite?

Well?
 
Return of Dune said:
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Originally Posted by Dixie
I don't believe these men are opposed to the 'institution' known as Social Security
Tell me Dix, are the Koch brothers opposed to S.S. or in favor of it?


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Originally Posted by Dixie
I have no idea and could care less.



Tell me Dix, are you are a liar or a hypocrite?

Well?
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I'm neither one idiot. I said "I have no idea and could care less" and I said "I don't believe these men oppose the 'institution' of social security" ....is there something in your retarded mind that makes these contradictory statements?

Now punk, do you care to answer my goddamn question, or are you going to keep running away like the chicken-shit hack you are? Do you favor the current Democrat plan to DO FUCKING NOTHING about Social Security while it goes under? Well, do ya, punk? Answer the question!
 
Dixie said:
I'm neither one idiot. I said "I have no idea and could care less" and I said "I don't believe these men oppose the 'institution' of social security" ....is there something in your retarded mind that makes these contradictory statements?

Now punk, do you care to answer my goddamn question, or are you going to keep running away like the chicken-shit hack you are? Do you favor the current Democrat plan to DO FUCKING NOTHING about Social Security while it goes under? Well, do ya, punk? Answer the question!
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First of all, dickshit, that is not the plan.

Secondly, you fucking idiot, S.S. is fully funded , as is, until 2037.
 
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