Kim Jong-un reportedly sending North Korean ‘slaves’ to Russia

[blackascoal]

I think he wants to blame Trump for NK and he's trying to figure out how to get from point A to point B lol.

That's why conversation with you Trumpies has to be done tongue in cheek. You're going to make up whatever you want to hear.

At no point in this have I blamed Trump for the Pandora's Box that we opened. I have no problem saying exactly what I want to say .. and zero concerns about any Trumpie countering what I have to say intellectually.

 

[Airstrip One]

NORTH Korean dictator Kim Jong-un is reportedly shipping tens of thousands of poor citizens to Russia in exchange for money.

Fox News reports that Human Rights Group Data Base Centre estimates that 50,000 North Koreans are working gruelling and low-paid jobs in Russia.

The group says North Korea is earning upwards of $US120 million every year from the scheme.

“The North Korean government maintains strict controls over their workers’ profits, in some cases probably taking 90 per cent of their wages,” Scott Synder, director of the Program on US-Korea Policy at the Council of Foreign Relations, told Fox News. “This is an issue that has been going on under the radar for a long time.”

North Koreans helped construct a new soccer stadium in St. Petersburg, where at least one North Korea was killed.

The US State Department issued a report on human trafficking last month that concluded that North Korean workers in Russia had been subjected to “exploitative labour conditions characteristic of trafficking cases such as withholding of identity documents, non-payment for services rendered, physical abuse, lack of safety measures, or extremely poor living conditions.”

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has proposed new sanctions to deal with the problem.

“Secretary Tillerson has called on all countries to fully implement all U.N. Security Council resolutions, sever or downgrade diplomatic relations, and isolate [North Korea] financially, including through new sanctions, severing trade relationships, expelling guest workers, and banning imports from North Korean,” a State Department official told Fox News.

The corruption has apparently only increased in the last 10 years as the monthly pay rate for the labourers has increased from about 17,000 roubles, around $376, to 50,000 roubles, or about $1079, according to the report.

“It’s very much analogous to any other type of trafficking situation across the world,” Snyder said. “Sex trafficking is done by shadowy, illegal organisations, but here we’re talking about state entities carrying out the trafficking. This really speaks to the nature of these regimes.”

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/k...a/news-story/52c26c31eabf62e2452d293680db9283

Marxism FTW

 

[tsuke]

We should offer the Chinese the right to implement their own puppet government in NK.

i think a variant of this is the solution. Offer china a joint invasion. They get to keep half of nk and sk gets to keep the other half. If the koreans dont like it we can pull all our troops out.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

ICBM's are staged rockets. NK got a stage one rocket to go up then down.

Then arming them presents another set of problems. They likely aren't there yet and they wouldn't be where they're at, except for the fact previous administrations kicked the can down the road---yes, including Bush II.

From North Korea's past string of failures, there's a good chance that if they do create a nuclear device; they'll probably set it off themselves, before it can be launched.

Problem solved.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Tell China if they don't act, we will grant Japan a nuke missile site they can lease from us.

There's plenty of diplomatic hardballs that haven't been thrown. Or tell China we'll let them have South China Sea if they get rid of Bowl Cut.

We need to rethink the placement of anti-missile lasers, placed in a geostationary orbit.

 

[Phantasmal]

Well, apparently nobody has been 'great' at handling the situation or we wouldn't be in this situation lol.

Trump is just over six months in so I don't expect him to do in six months what several other presidents couldn't do over the course of a decade.

He said he could, he said they wouldn't.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Previous administrations just missed this or thought "what the hell? What harm can a nuclear enabled North Korea be?"

for the previous eight years it was clearly the latter.........same approach they took toward Iraq........

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The little fat man with nukes is in China's best interests.

sure....because we all know he isn't crazy enough to shoot one if them at China, right?........right?.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Tell China if they don't act, we will grant Japan a nuke missile site they can lease from us.

there's no way Japan would want one......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

He's their buffer ..

from what?......the aggression of South Korea?.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The War Was Won Before Hiroshima—And the Generals Who Dropped the Bomb Knew It

probably the same guys who blew up the WTC towers right?.......

 

[Althea]

:0) 'opposing'

The North Koreans are doing whatever they want to do without the consent of your opposing.

Tell me again what Trump is going to do if NK develops a ICBM that could reach the US?

It's been 6 months. Why are there still American hostages in N. Korea?

Sad

 

[Althea]

Assuming they get the capability probably 90% of the tech was developed under the previous administration.

Should we bomb them for their technical abilities?

 

[Althea]

North Korea boasts the world's fourth largest army. At 1.2 million soldiers, it is only slightly smaller than the 1.4 million personnel in the U.S. armed forces.

One of the consequences of the Obama administration's nuclear deal with Iran is that Tehran got access to $100-$150 billion in frozen assets. It's likely that some of those funds ended up indirectly financing North Korea's nuclear weapons development program.

For the last half-century, we have taught Pyongyang that every time it bluffs, the West will back down. Not surprisingly, North Korea continues to pursue a strategy that has been shown to be a winning one.

It's very possible that the Trump administration is preparing to call Kim Jong-un's bluff. If so, we are heading for a showdown between two men whose political survival precludes either from backing down. Such dynamics invariably lead to a conflict that nobody wants but which neither side will back down to prevent.

A war would likely result in the end of the North Korean state, but it would also result in tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars of damage to South Korea and the deaths, potentially, of hundreds of thousands and conceivably millions of people.

Moreover, depending on North Korea's capabilities when such a conflict broke out, the violence could spill over into Japan as well, raising the cost, both in lives and property, commensurately higher.

North Korea cannot continue its present course of developing nuclear armed missiles. No American president will allow Pyongyang to develop a credible nuclear strategic capability to strike the continental United States. Barring North Korea's agreement to shut down its nuclear and missile program, a day of reckoning is coming.

The Trump administration has already indicated that the potential use of military force "is on the table" and is under consideration.

The U.S. Air Force is doing drills over South Korea and readiness preparations at U.S. military bases on Guam and elsewhere in East Asia. The U.S. government has already briefed civilian officials on Guam on civil defense procedures.

Currently, the U.S. has three carriers, the USS Carl Vinson, USS Nimitz and the USS Ronald Reagan, and their battle groups in the Sea of Japan.

A day of reckoning is coming. Perhaps not today or tomorrow, but it is coming. If the signals from the Trump administration are to be believed, it may soon.



http://www.military.com/daily-news/...-nuclear-program-are-we-heading-showdown.html

Foil hat much?

 

[Althea]

I don't recall previous administrations putting a lot of emphasis on NK. Bush II had his hands full after 9/11 and then with Iraq and I don't recall Obama doing much about them either.

You 'don't remember' because these things are typically dealt with behind the scenes, with a lot of help from other nations in the region. trump just chooses bluster over substance, and ultimately lies about the failures of his actions.

It's a tendency.

He's going to look like an ass when his armada does nothing, and he has no moves when the fat little Communist makes his next move.

 

[Althea]

THAAD would be overwhelmed in a nuclear exchange even if the ROK allows widespread deployment. It's possible the Chinese will launch too.

No good outcome, but this has to be faced. Otherwise the North Koreans will continue to push, and our allies and the whole world will be at risk.

You REALLY think Kim doesn't realize that if he launches a weapon in the future, his entire country will be gone?

 

[Althea]

Tell China if they don't act, we will grant Japan a nuke missile site they can lease from us.

There's plenty of diplomatic hardballs that haven't been thrown. Or tell China we'll let them have South China Sea if they get rid of Bowl Cut.

Were you alive during the Cold War? The whole thing about nukes, is that it's all about bluffing. Or holding aces of your own, as it were.

 

[tsuke]

We need to rethink the placement of anti-missile lasers, placed in a geostationary orbit.

history teaches us that no amount of defense will stop an opponent if he really wants to hit you.

 

[Rune]

Assuming they get the capability probably 90% of the tech was developed under the previous administration.

that isnt an answer

 

[Bigdog]

We? lol. It was the Progressive Socialist Democrats, Truman and FDR, who were responsible for America's use of nukes ... not "we". "We" didn't even know they existed.