Just reported on ABC News... Brit Intel picked up conversations...

I wonder what information we would get if we listened to all of Podesta's conversations? Would we get stuff of political value?
 
Darth Omar said:
Nunes didn't report to Trump regarding the Russian investigation. That would have been unethical.

He went to Trump first because Trump [and/or some of his people] would have been the *victims* of illegal unmasking by someone in the previous administration---probably Susan Rice.

Since Nunes didn't brief Trump on the Russian investigation, the charge against him is bogus. It was a political play by Schiff and it worked, because congressional republicans wouldn't stand up to him.
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To be clear....Bill Clinton discussed Hillary's impending charges, or the lack thereof with Loretta Lynch , but Nunes didn't discuss the Russia investigation with trump? Both were conducted in private. How can you be so sure in either case?

The mere fact that the chair of a committee that is investigating trump, went directly to trump with info that trump leaked (crazy, huh?) is grounds for removal. Further, his shut down of the investigation is proof that he's still working for trump, and not for the citizens of this country.
 
Althea said:
To be clear....Bill Clinton discussed Hillary's impending charges, or the lack thereof with Loretta Lynch , but Nunes didn't discuss the Russia investigation with trump? Both were conducted in private. How can you be so sure in either case?

The mere fact that the chair of a committee that is investigating trump, went directly to trump with info that trump leaked (crazy, huh?) is grounds for removal. Further, his shut down of the investigation is proof that he's still working for trump, and not for the citizens of this country.
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the meeting of rapist and lynch was supposed to be hidden from everyeone until a reporter chanced upon it. Nunes told everyone he was going to Trump.
 
Rump is intentionally damaging US - Russian relations so he can put forth the image that he is not beholden to them, because he has a good idea what is going to come out in the coming weeks/months.
 
Jarod said:
Rump is intentionally damaging US - Russian relations so he can put forth the image that he is not beholden to them, because he has a good idea what is going to come out in the coming weeks/months.
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So, no matter what Trump does with regard to Russia it's evidence of collusion: if he helps them, Trump is Putin's puppet; if he's antagonistic towards them, it's just a Trump/Putin charade and a deception, to hide the fact they are colluding.

Doesn't that make the theory unfalsifiable lol?
 
Darth Omar said:
So, no matter what Trump does with regard to Russia it's evidence of collusion: if he helps them, Trump is Putin's puppet; if he's antagonistic towards them, it's just a Trump/Putin charade and a deception, to hide the fact they are colluding.

Doesn't that make the theory unfalsifiable lol?
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I don't think there necessarily has to be a correlation between collusion & current behavior.

Putin can't stand Hillary. Russia wanted Trump to win regardless. There didn't have to be any promises of good relations or favors w/ Trump.
 
Darth Omar said:
So, no matter what Trump does with regard to Russia it's evidence of collusion: if he helps them, Trump is Putin's puppet; if he's antagonistic towards them, it's just a Trump/Putin charade and a deception, to hide the fact they are colluding.

Doesn't that make the theory unfalsifiable lol?
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Maybe when you get older, and achieve some life experience you will understand.

Whether in sports, business, or international geopolitics one always wants to be paired up against their weakest opponent.

The Kremlin was praying for a Drumpf victory because he is not intelligent, he is not knowlegable, he is not savy, he insults our NATO allies, he badmouths NATO and is widedly expected to weaken the alliance, he wants to make America isolationist (with the benefit of giving the Kremlin more breathing room for its regional ambitions), and Drumpf is basically just a big man child, a chump on the international stage.

In short, everything the Kremlin could possibly hope and pray for in an American president.
 
Nomad said:
...Between Russian agents and top level Trump campaign officials in 2015, early in the campaign.

Staaaayyyyyyyyyyyy........ Tuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnned folks!!!!!! :awesome:
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yeah


we will end up with a fuck who cheated with Russian help and gets to pick a scotus member


Imagine how that member will be viewed for decades
 
Jarod said:
Rump is intentionally damaging US - Russian relations so he can put forth the image that he is not beholden to them, because he has a good idea what is going to come out in the coming weeks/months.
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And what is it, that's going to be "coming out"??
 
Cypress said:
Maybe when you get older, and achieve some life experience you will understand.

Whether in sports, business, or international geopolitics one always wants to be paired up against their weakest opponent.

The Kremlin was praying for a Drumpf victory because he is not intelligent, he is not knowlegable, he is not savy, he insults our NATO allies, he badmouths NATO and is widedly expected to weaken the alliance, he wants to make America isolationist (with the benefit of giving the Kremlin more breathing room for its regional ambitions), and Drumpf is basically just a big man child, a chump on the international stage.

In short, everything the Kremlin could possibly hope and pray for in an American president.
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!

:popcorn:
 
Micawber said:
It IS troubling, stand alone. I don't want any campaigns acting in the capacity of a campaign having private meetings with any foreign governments, or even foreign business interests for that matter. Why would I want that?
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How soon you forget. Lets see if you are a man of your word or not.

Obama takes campaign trail overseas

(CNN) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is in Afghanistan on a multistop overseas trip for meetings with international leaders but with an eye on the U.S. presidential race back home. Obama's trip, which includes visits to Iraq, Jordan, Israel, Germany, France and the United Kingdom, is intended to bolster his foreign policy credentials before U.S. voters. link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/18/obama.trip/index.html?iref=nextin
 
Darth Omar said:
They had conversations!!!!!!!

With Russians!!!!!
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De tente' is a foreign subject to demwits. I fail to see the point of anyone who claims that wire tapping a conservation between the US and Russia is evidence of collusion. Hell, news flash....Hillary had conversations with Russian Diplomats... that were intercepted, is she guilty of collusion as it was she who helped broker a deal in favor of Putin gaining accesses to the Canadian uranium mines, not Donald Trump? If she is not guilty of collusion...why not, the evidence is exactly the same, and the Russians did "magically" have access to only the DNC campaign network. But the evidence points to the Trump Campaign...even when Rice released only the names of Trump people with no democrat names dropped at all.....but it was not (wink, wink) political? Really? What's the odds of anyone in the Trump Campaign knowing the pass words to the DNC network? Looks like an inside job to anyone with common sense.

Just how stupid do these idiots believe THE PEOPLE to be?
 
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Cypress said:
Maybe when you get older, and achieve some life experience you will understand.

Whether in sports, business, or international geopolitics one always wants to be paired up against their weakest opponent.

The Kremlin was praying for a Drumpf victory because he is not intelligent, he is not knowlegable, he is not savy, he insults our NATO allies, he badmouths NATO and is widedly expected to weaken the alliance, he wants to make America isolationist (with the benefit of giving the Kremlin more breathing room for its regional ambitions), and Drumpf is basically just a big man child, a chump on the international stage.

In short, everything the Kremlin could possibly hope and pray for in an American president.
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Have you been paying attention to what's going lol?

Trump hit Putin's assets in Syria. In order to keep believing in the collusion conspiracy, you have to believe Putin sacrificed some serious military equipment just to keep the charade going. Surely, there are other, less costly ways, to do that. Like maybe a Twitter battle between he and Trump lol.

And it doesn't sound like Putin, at all.
 
Cypress said:
Maybe when you get older, and achieve some life experience you will understand.

Whether in sports, business, or international geopolitics one always wants to be paired up against their weakest opponent.
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funny - Wikileaks indicates that is exactly what the DNC wanted as well.

They were so confident that Trump would give them a win that they played russian roulette and did everything they could to hurt his opponents.

then they lost to him.
 
Micawber said:
That is troubling. Why the sarcasm? He wasn't on official business. What is his campaign doing speaking with Russians and hiding it from people in 2015? What's the legitimate purpose?
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OMG

RUSSIANS!!!!

NOT "THE RUSSIANS"!!!!


ROFLMAO

Funny that liberals claim Trump is making it up that he was being surveilled yet all we hear about is how Trump is surveilled and it is this same surveillance the left is trying to use to link him to RUSSIANS

Maybe they don't get the irony?

:dunno"
 
Cypress said:
Maybe when you get older, and achieve some life experience you will understand.

Whether in sports, business, or international geopolitics one always wants to be paired up against their weakest opponent.

The Kremlin was praying for a Drumpf victory because he is not intelligent, he is not knowlegable, he is not savy, he insults our NATO allies, he badmouths NATO and is widedly expected to weaken the alliance, he wants to make America isolationist (with the benefit of giving the Kremlin more breathing room for its regional ambitions), and Drumpf is basically just a big man child, a chump on the international stage.

In short, everything the Kremlin could possibly hope and pray for in an American president.
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Then I guess that proves the old adage "Be careful what you wish for."
 
Cypress said:
Maybe when you get older, and achieve some life experience you will understand.

Whether in sports, business, or international geopolitics one always wants to be paired up against their weakest opponent.

The Kremlin was praying for a Drumpf victory because he is not intelligent, he is not knowlegable, he is not savy, he insults our NATO allies, he badmouths NATO and is widedly expected to weaken the alliance, he wants to make America isolationist (with the benefit of giving the Kremlin more breathing room for its regional ambitions), and Drumpf is basically just a big man child, a chump on the international stage.

In short, everything the Kremlin could possibly hope and pray for in an American president.
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Is that because they never got their way with the Hillary and Obama regimes?

Is it because Obama was so forceful when Russia invaded Ukraine?

Is it because Hillary prevented Russia from taking control of uranium one?

Let me ask, if Russia "interfered" as you claim they did would that not be an act of war?

Do you want us to go to war with Russia?
 
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