If the issue is perceived as white on black crime, Al and Jesse will be there, ranting and raving, shouting and threatening, demanding their idea of justice....
and don't hold your breath for Onecell respond to your request or to debate the issue.
Juan Williams on Martin case...
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If the issue is perceived as white on black crime, Al and Jesse will be there, ranting and raving, shouting and threatening, demanding their idea of justice....
and don't hold your breath for Onecell respond to your request or to debate the issue.
Why aren't you...???...........Jesse and Al are the loud mouths, instigating trouble when their is a race difference to exploit.....not Williams....he isn't an activist....
Glad someone else noticed. Does bravs have no sense of the irony inherent in his posting?
And again....comment on the poster, ignore the post....#101
And again....comment on the poster, ignore the post....#102
Why isn't he, he complains about inaction, but does nothing to help, what measures is he taking to help blacks. I remember people saying the same thing about Martin Luther.
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Seriously, you are not helping. The above does exactly what you are bitching about and it adds no value. It just provides the liberals another excuse to avoid discussing the points made by Williams. Please stop helping them.
You do it all the time, Popeye, remove the plank from your own eye, before you start condemning others for what you, yourself is guilty of doing.
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Because when Williams speaks up on these things he is denounced as a 'token' and demeaned by liberals?
As for Jackson and Sharpton... what exactly have they done to reduce black on black crime? Please highlight some examples.
I don't dislike Williams, and he makes some good points in the article in general. However, the gist of the article, as well as its context, are kind of what you might expect from him on this issue.
He's saying something to alleviate concern that this might actually be anything but a black problem. The black community needs to improve its education, make itself less violent & less threatening - it's THEIR problem.
In the context of the Zimmerman case, an argument could be made that he is almost excusing the profiling that went on.
You hate Sharpton & Jackson, but both have worked to improve conditions for the black community for decades. Yes, the also latch onto the "big" hightly publicized cases. But guess what? Those are also the cases where the racism that still exists in society can be brought more easily to the attention of the masses.
I think its funny that you think Juan Williams has said anything that hasn't been said for decades now (the Jackson quote is from the early 1990s). People have dedicated their lives to trying to combat these problems and work day in and day out to address the issues that Juan Williams seems to have suddenly discovered. The protests that Juan Williams asks about at the end just aren't effective methods to combating ingrained society wide problems, but they are effective in focusing attention on a singular injustice.
Hes a role model.....not an activist......Al and Jesse are idiots, activists and race baiters that pick and choose issues that divide the races....kinda like you.
Williams 'suddenly discovered'....what crap.....hes reminding you of something you all have been denying for the entire thread...
recalling the words of non-other than Jesse Jackson......not Willliams
"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . .
Just imagine if a white had uttered these very same words......the pinheads like we see on this forum would be calling him or her a racist, bigot and every vile name under the sun for doing nothing more than speaking the truth.....
No...He also commented on the post.....
And again....comment on the poster, ignore the post....#103
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Which is why you are the only one from the left that is commenting on the actual article rather than attacking Williams for being a 'token' or for working for 'Fox' etc....
I don't think he is trying to alleviate the situation with his comments. I think he is trying to get people to look deeper at some of the things that lead to the perception of 'young black man = dangerous'. I don't think he is trying to excuse Zimmerman's actions or the profiling. Given the black resident that was quoted saying 'we have had increased crime and it is mostly blacks doing it' kind of lends credence to being suspicious of a black kid that isn't known.
I wouldn't say I hate them, but I do hate how they climb on in self promoting ways to cases like these. Yet in the cases of Duke Lacrosse, Gates and now Zimmerman/Martin, they come out swinging the racists charges and then disappear when more details come out that show they jumped the gun.
I agree they have done some good, but I am failing to see how they have improved conditions for the black community (at least in the past decade or so).
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and Onecell is gonna get this same message every time he ignores the issue and blasts the poster.....fuck that double standard we're living with
And you can call me on it when I completely ignore the issue and only comment on the poster....
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good article. i mentioned the 93% stat the other day in a thread about jackson claiming blacks are under attack or something to that effect. i believe juan has made comments like these previously. it sometimes seems as if people get upset and make it a national issue.... about black deaths when it is committed by someone who is not black and juan is merely trying to get people to think about the bigger picture.