John Brennan blasts assassination of Iranian nuclear scientist

So, Iran will retaliate.
Against who, I wonder?
Americans in Iraq or Afghanistan or Israel.

As if they needed another excuse to kill Americans? :palm: You really don't understand Iran.

Fakhrizadeh is not an innocent civilian. He works for the military research arm of a terrorist gov't.
 
As if they needed another excuse to kill Americans? :palm: You really don't understand Iran.

Fakhrizadeh is not an innocent civilian. He works for the military research arm of a terrorist gov't.

Which terrorist government is doing the assassinating ?



Haw, haw................................haw.
 
As if they needed another excuse to kill Americans? :palm: You really don't understand Iran.

Fakhrizadeh is not an innocent civilian. He works for the military research arm of a terrorist gov't.

Indeed.

Iran, on the State Department list of state sponsors of terrorism.
 
wait a minute. you consider the USA to be an aggravate of the internecine warfare of Islam
expressed between KSA and Iran?
They do fine enough without us being a factor
Yes, they do just fine all by themselves.
Yes the US is aggravating the situation in the ME, because we are supporting one faction of camel jockey's, the Sunni's.
The the other faction, the Shiites aren't happy with our support.
Those two people have been at odds for centuries and both are in every country in the region.
 
Yet you never said a fucking word when Obama was droning Afghanistan and Waziristan, hypocritical cunt!!
Really?

President Donald Trump has revoked a policy set by his predecessor requiring US intelligence officials to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

The 2016 executive order was brought in by then-President Barack Obama, who was under pressure to be more transparent.

The jump in the number of drone strikes and civilian deaths is largely owing to Trump’s decision last March that allowed the CIA to conduct strikes without White House approval.


After gutting the already lax regulations on drone strikes and giving the CIA free rein to kill whomever they choose, it took Trump only seven months to surpass the number of civilian deaths that occurred during Obama’s entire eight-year presidency, according to non-profit monitoring group Airwars.

Not a peep from RW's, likely because of Trump's executive orders, so someone outside the US is keeping tabs.
 
Really?

President Donald Trump has revoked a policy set by his predecessor requiring US intelligence officials to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

The 2016 executive order was brought in by then-President Barack Obama, who was under pressure to be more transparent.

The jump in the number of drone strikes and civilian deaths is largely owing to Trump’s decision last March that allowed the CIA to conduct strikes without White House approval.


After gutting the already lax regulations on drone strikes and giving the CIA free rein to kill whomever they choose, it took Trump only seven months to surpass the number of civilian deaths that occurred during Obama’s entire eight-year presidency, according to non-profit monitoring group Airwars.

Not a peep from RW's, likely because of Trump's executive orders, so someone outside the US is keeping tabs.
the civilian deaths are unknown under Obama -they were concentrated in Waziristan, Somalia and Yemen and a few in Pakistan and Afghanistan.. The numbers just aren't there/

US claims of ‘no civilian deaths’ are untrue
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2011-07-18/us-claims-of-no-civilian-deaths-are-untrue
According to Brennan, Barack Obama himself has ‘insisted’ that US drone strikes are ‘exceptionally surgical and precise’ and ‘do not put… innocent men, women and children in danger’.

Yet a detailed examination by the Bureau of 116 CIA ‘secret’ drone strikes in Pakistan since August 2010 has uncovered at least 10 individual attacks in which 45 or more civilians appear to have died.

The Bureau has identified and can provide the family names for, six children among those killed.
 
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he White House released long-awaited figures last July on the number of people killed in drone strikes between January 2009 and the end of 2015, an announcement which insiders said was a direct response to pressure from the Bureau and other organisations that collect data. However the US’s estimate of the number of civilians killed – between 64 and 116 – contrasted strongly with the number recorded by the Bureau, which at 380 to 801 was six times higher.

That figure does not include deaths in active battlefields including Afghanistan – where US air attacks have shot up since Obama withdrew the majority of his troops at the end of 2014. The country has since come under frequent US bombardment, in an unreported war that saw 1,337 weapons dropped last year alone – a 40% rise on 2015.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2011-07-18/us-claims-of-no-civilian-deaths-are-untrue
 
Trump has gone more in Yemen/Somalia. Pakistan now prohibits US drones because of the civilian deaths.
And this horseshit by Brennan/Obama that they carried out in a "precise manner" is trash talk because of the use of "signature strikes"

wedding parties were droned in Pakistan and Yemen (ex.) because of sig strikes
 
Yes, they do just fine all by themselves.
Yes the US is aggravating the situation in the ME, because we are supporting one faction of camel jockey's, the Sunni's.
The the other faction, the Shiites aren't happy with our support.
Those two people have been at odds for centuries and both are in every country in the region.
it's impossible to support Iran -so this Obamaesque nonsense of unequal support fades.

In truth we have a "special relationship" started under FDR with Kingdom of SA.. start there
Also factions like Hezbollah make it all but impossible to use an equal hand.

Trumps diplomacy was paying off.
the Sunni states were now sufficently sure of US support that the Abraham Accord was possible
KSA has defacto security agreements with Israel. Israel was secure in Trumps support as well

If Biden follows Obama policies -all that goes away
 
They know it's not. That's what they like about it.
pretty obvious Iran never followed the IAEA protocols.
Plus the Obama deal did not address their ballistic missile program.
I think they now have ICBM capable of striking Europe
 
the civilian deaths are unknown under Obama -they were concentrated in Waziristan, Somalia and Yemen and a few in Pakistan and Afghanistan.. The numbers just aren't there/

US claims of ‘no civilian deaths’ are untrue
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2011-07-18/us-claims-of-no-civilian-deaths-are-untrue
According to Brennan, Barack Obama himself has ‘insisted’ that US drone strikes are ‘exceptionally surgical and precise’ and ‘do not put… innocent men, women and children in danger’.

Yet a detailed examination by the Bureau of 116 CIA ‘secret’ drone strikes in Pakistan since August 2010 has uncovered at least 10 individual attacks in which 45 or more civilians appear to have died.

The Bureau has identified and can provide the family names for, six children among those killed.

It required the head of the CIA to release annual summaries of US drone strikes and assess how many died as a result.

Mr Trump's executive order does not overturn reporting requirements on civilian deaths set for the military by Congress.

During Mr Obama's eight years in office, 1,878 drone strikes were carried out, according to researchers. Since Mr Trump was elected in 2016, there have been 2,243 drone strikes. The Republican president has also made some of the operations, the ones outside of war zones, more secretive. As a result, things have different today: under Mr Trump, there are more drone strikes - and less transparency.

While the mainstream media focuses on anything but the current state of U.S. intervention in the Middle East, the Trump Administration is breaking records by accumulating a horrific number of civilian deaths.
President Trump has been in office for just 9 months, and he has already surpassed Obama’s murderous record with estimated numbers as high as 4,500 civilian deaths.
 
he White House released long-awaited figures last July on the number of people killed in drone strikes between January 2009 and the end of 2015, an announcement which insiders said was a direct response to pressure from the Bureau and other organisations that collect data. However the US’s estimate of the number of civilians killed – between 64 and 116 – contrasted strongly with the number recorded by the Bureau, which at 380 to 801 was six times higher.

That figure does not include deaths in active battlefields including Afghanistan – where US air attacks have shot up since Obama withdrew the majority of his troops at the end of 2014. The country has since come under frequent US bombardment, in an unreported war that saw 1,337 weapons dropped last year alone – a 40% rise on 2015.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2011-07-18/us-claims-of-no-civilian-deaths-are-untrue

Trump made headlines in December 2015, when he declared that if elected, he would not only kill members of ISIS—he would also “take out their families.”
Researchers have documented the rise of “frequent killing of entire families in likely coalition airstrikes” under the Trump Administration. This trend led to “the deaths of at least 57 women and 52 children in Iraq and Syria” in May.

While this may come as no surprise, considering the fact that Trump promised to “bomb the hell out of ISIS” while on the campaign trail, his administration’s offensive against the Islamic State is not the only ongoing war that is killing civilians.

According to a report from United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan documenting civilian causalities during the first half of 2017, “aerial operations” led to a “43 percent increase in civilian casualties compared to the first six months of 2016, including a 67 percent increase in civilian deaths.”
 
Trump made headlines in December 2015, when he declared that if elected, he would not only kill members of ISIS—he would also “take out their families.”
Researchers have documented the rise of “frequent killing of entire families in likely coalition airstrikes” under the Trump Administration. This trend led to “the deaths of at least 57 women and 52 children in Iraq and Syria” in May.

While this may come as no surprise, considering the fact that Trump promised to “bomb the hell out of ISIS” while on the campaign trail, his administration’s offensive against the Islamic State is not the only ongoing war that is killing civilians.

According to a report from United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan documenting civilian causalities during the first half of 2017, “aerial operations” led to a “43 percent increase in civilian casualties compared to the first six months of 2016, including a 67 percent increase in civilian deaths.”
put up a citation -otherwise it's just blather from fake news.

Bombing an army (ISIS) isn't droning 'select' targets either
 
it's impossible to support Iran -so this Obamaesque nonsense of unequal support fades.

In truth we have a "special relationship" started under FDR with Kingdom of SA.. start there
Also factions like Hezbollah make it all but impossible to use an equal hand.

Trumps diplomacy was paying off.
the Sunni states were now sufficently sure of US support that the Abraham Accord was possible
KSA has defacto security agreements with Israel. Israel was secure in Trumps support as well

If Biden follows Obama policies -all that goes away
No it doesn't, the agreement was signed by the UAE, Bahrain and Israel.
The idiot Trump regime bragged about a "peace" agreement with 3 countries not even at war or even a conflict.
 
It required the head of the CIA to release annual summaries of US drone strikes and assess how many died as a result.

Mr Trump's executive order does not overturn reporting requirements on civilian deaths set for the military by Congress.

During Mr Obama's eight years in office, 1,878 drone strikes were carried out, according to researchers. Since Mr Trump was elected in 2016, there have been 2,243 drone strikes. The Republican president has also made some of the operations, the ones outside of war zones, more secretive. As a result, things have different today: under Mr Trump, there are more drone strikes - and less transparency.

While the mainstream media focuses on anything but the current state of U.S. intervention in the Middle East, the Trump Administration is breaking records by accumulating a horrific number of civilian deaths.
President Trump has been in office for just 9 months, and he has already surpassed Obama’s murderous record with estimated numbers as high as 4,500 civilian deaths.
citation required ( again) are that fucking lazy or just disingenuous?
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droning is complicated business - "transparency" from CIA reports is laughable -consider Brennans statement of "precise/no civilians" horseshit.

There are a shitload of bad actors worldwide -i have no problem droning terrorists.
Soleimani or Qassim al-Rimi (Yemen), or killing Baghdadi -all done by Trump

Obama escalated Bush's drones /Trump escalated Obama drones. this isn't problematic by itself.
The emphasis needs to be on severely limiting/endind sig. strikes
 
No it doesn't, the agreement was signed by the UAE, Bahrain and Israel.
The idiot Trump regime bragged about a "peace" agreement with 3 countries not even at war or even a conflict.
you forgot Sudan!
The accords allow for diplomatic exchanges, and normalization of trade and travel.

They are not "peace agreements" from warring parties, they are normalization agreements
that cementt cultural and economic ties -stabilizing and improving relationships.

Most importantly they BYPASS THE "PALESTINIAN PROBLEM" ( which Kerry said was impossible)
and provide pathways to peace between Israel and the Arab states

Trump got more done in 4 years then anyone since Carter -and laid out a template for further normalizations
( which Biden will no doubt fuck up beyond all recognition- FUBAR)
 
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