Joe Scarborough on Trayvon Martin

ZappasGuitar said:
Oh okay...so because Fox allows some ineffectual "opposition" to sit in and get shouted down by the host whenever he/she tries to make a point, then it's okay that Fox talking heads make sure their baseless allegations get passed off as fact before the end of the segment...
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You must be talking about O'Reilly......hes the only one that will not allow a guest to lie, avoid, spin or filibuster the conversation to keep form giving a direct answer to the
issue in question.......I can understand how that pisses you pinheads off.....you're not accustomed to your politicians being bullied into actually answering a direct question.........and that is what O'Reilly does........we love it.
 
Onceler said:
Joe's right, and you don't like it - your 1st instinct in this tragedy was political. You were one of 3 posters on here who said I was a hack and "defending Dems" for saying it was NOT political.

Everything is a lefty conspiracy for you; it usually is for right-wing hacks. It's easy to see from the outside, but when you're immersed in the koolaid, it probably just looks like "everyone else" is....
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And here is the left's response to hearing that Zimmerman had shot Martin.

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Onceler said:
Joe's right, and you don't like it - your 1st instinct in this tragedy was political. You were one of 3 posters on here who said I was a hack and "defending Dems" for saying it was NOT political.

Everything is a lefty conspiracy for you; it usually is for right-wing hacks. It's easy to see from the outside, but when you're immersed in the koolaid, it probably just looks like "everyone else" is....
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Joe said ,

"This has everything to do with a guy that's trying to play security cop, who is unhinged, who chased down and shot a 17-year-old kid armed with Skittles and iced tea.'"

Playing security cop is an unfair and inflammatory mis-charactization of not only Zimmerman, but of all the people that are involved
with 'neighborhood watch groups' all over the country......

And to call a man in Scarborough's position to call another man 'unhinged' without for what we see as defending yourself is over the top for even an ass like Joe .....thats more like what we hear on internet sites like this one....

When and if it is proven otherwise, we can all call GZ unhinged.....


And get real, it has been political from the moment Zimmerman was wrongly described as white......you know and I know it.....
 
Onceler said:
Joe's right, and you don't like it - your 1st instinct in this tragedy was political. You were one of 3 posters on here who said I was a hack and "defending Dems" for saying it was NOT political.

Everything is a lefty conspiracy for you; it usually is for right-wing hacks. It's easy to see from the outside, but when you're immersed in the koolaid, it probably just looks like "everyone else" is....
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lol...circular logic...joe is right because i say so. you're such a funny little hack.

telling you that you are defending dems - is not making anything political. how many times do i need to explain the concept to you? i tried a few times, but your limited thinking can't grasp a simple concept. and i did not say it because you said it was not political. that is a flat out lie. i don't know if your mental faculties are diminished or you're just a habitual liar.

everything is a lefty conspiracy? wow...that is amazing. where have i ever said? you do realize how stupid your comment is.

onceler's logic:

yurt - obama is an american citizen, born in hawaii, thus eligible for office

onceler - yurt is a birther
 
bravo said:
Too bad he's back......all we'll hear about now is race and homosexuality.....that was all he had before his much too short vacation....
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Darling, that's what you know and that's what you love...we all know who's who and what is what...no need to re-hash. You haven't changed have you? I haven't.
 
bravo said:
Joe said ,

"This has everything to do with a guy that's trying to play security cop, who is unhinged, who chased down and shot a 17-year-old kid armed with Skittles and iced tea.'"

Playing security cop is an unfair and inflammatory mis-charactization of not only Zimmerman, but of all the people that are involved
with 'neighborhood watch groups' all over the country......

And to call a man in Scarborough's position to call another man 'unhinged' without for what we see as defending yourself is over the top for even an ass like Joe .....thats more like what we hear on internet sites like this one....

When and if it is proven otherwise, we can all call GZ unhinged.....


And get real, it has been political from the moment Zimmerman was wrongly described as white......you know and I know it.....
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"Wrongly described"???? Isn't his father white? Perhaps that's how he identifies. President Obama's mother was white, to the right's chagrin, he identifies as "black".
Zimmerman, perhaps, in his own delusion, thought he was white, and acted "accordingly".
 
poet said:
"Wrongly described"???? Isn't his father white? Perhaps that's how he identifies. President Obama's mother was white, to the right's chagrin, he identifies as "black".
Zimmerman, perhaps, in his own delusion, thought he was white, and acted "accordingly".
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Curious why it is to the rights chagrin? When have mixed (black and white) children been identified as white?
 
cawacko said:
Curious why it is to the rights chagrin? When have mixed (black and white) children been identified as white?
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When they look more white than black. We had a family here in Anchorage, mom was white, dad was black, the oldest boy looked black, the younger boy white. No one believed they were brothers if you didn't know them.
 
cawacko said:
Curious why it is to the rights chagrin? When have mixed (black and white) children been identified as white?
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Oh, please. The right gives President Obama holy hell about him not "supposedly" honoring his white heritage. As if any white person would recognize it in the first place.
In historic Louisiana, mulatto women had "debutante balls", to court white men into setting them up with estates and promises that their children would be raised as free.
Many mulatto women (and "undoubtedly" men) have "passed" as white. Didn't you ever see "Imitation of Life"?
 
poet said:
Oh, please. The right gives President Obama holy hell about him not "supposedly" honoring his white heritage. As if any white person would recognize it in the first place.
In historic Louisiana, mulatto women had "debutante balls", to court white men into setting them up with estates and promises that their children would be raised as free.
Many mulatto women (and "undoubtedly" men) have "passed" as white. Didn't you ever see "Imitation of Life"?
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Have not seen it. I've never heard a mixed race person called white. My brother-in-law is mixed and I've only heard him called black.
 
poet said:
"Wrongly described"???? Isn't his father white? Perhaps that's how he identifies. President Obama's mother was white, to the right's chagrin, he identifies as "black".
Zimmerman, perhaps, in his own delusion, thought he was white, and acted "accordingly".
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accordingly?
 
poet said:
"Wrongly described"???? Isn't his father white? Perhaps that's how he identifies. President Obama's mother was white, to the right's chagrin, he identifies as "black".
Zimmerman, perhaps, in his own delusion, thought he was white, and acted "accordingly".
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Perhaps ?.....well, perhaps he didn't identify as white and acted accordingly....perhaps he acted like a man in fear of his life.....
 
Onceler said:
I disagree completely. He just isn't afraid to piss either side off. He still believes in conservatism - it's still his guiding philosophy.

But he doesn't carry water for the GOP. People aren't used to hearing any politician or even commentator speak that way.
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So....YOU'RE not making it political ?....what BS......we're talking a Scarborough and his opinion on this shooting and you quickly mention the GOP and conservatism as if
that is issue......you're caught again, sonny....lying through your teeth.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not sure what groups or websites he's referring to here but I agree with him.


Joe Scarborough On Trayvon Martin: Conservatives Are 'Fools' For Taking Political Stance


Joe Scarborough condemned some conservatives and right-leaning websites for trying to turn Trayvon Martin's death into a political cause on Friday's "Morning Joe."

Martin was unarmed when he was shot dead by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in late February. His death and the local police department's failure to arrest Zimmerman have taken the country by storm. Scarborough has spoken out demanding the shooter's arrest.

On Friday, he excoriated some conservative websites for defending Zimmerman and questioning Martin's innocence. He said that he found their behavior "disgusting."

"Why is it that some on the right are actually taking this up as a cause?" Scarborough asked. "As National Review said almost immediately after it happened, this has nothing to do with gun rights, this has nothing to do with the Second Amendment, this has nothing to do with stand your ground laws, this has nothing to do with the NRA. This has everything to do with a guy that's trying to play security cop, who is unhinged, who chased down and shot a 17-year-old kid armed with Skittles and iced tea.'"

Scarborough warned that conservative sites should follow the National Review and "not take this up as a cause." He took issue with their portrayal of Martin in particular.

He said, "some racist websites, but also sadly some fairly mainstream websites are actually going into Trayvon Martin’s social media pages, be it Twitter or MySpace, and they're trying to find ominous looking pictures while skipping over pictures of him holding up a birthday cake smiling, him fishing with his dad, him standing outside proudly of his home dressed in a tux ready to go to prom."

"This is beneath contempt," Scarborough railed. "These people on the far right are being fools to try to make this a political issue.”

"Some out there are marginalizing themselves, making fools of themselves," he continued. He speculated that they took issue with President Obama's remarks about Martin's death. "I guess in their warped, twisted, distorted, political worldview, that makes this dead 17-year-old boy — who was kept in the morgue for three days before they even notified his parents of his whereabouts — I guess that makes it okay?" he said.


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If he's going to attack people for making it political, he needs to go after the left just as much, they've used this to attack law enforcement, race, gun laws, and anything else they can find. Trayvon's death got big, then it got diluted, and now the actual event is just a tiny fragment of the story. This feels a bit like the holocaust becoming bigger than ww2, look up which one killed more people, I'll give you a hint, its not the holocaust.
 
bravo said:
So....YOU'RE not making it political ?....what BS......we're talking a Scarborough and his opinion on this shooting and you quickly mention the GOP and conservatism as if
that is issue......you're caught again, sonny....lying through your teeth.
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Um....bravs? You might want to try reading the OP.

LOL. Pretty unreal.
 
bravo said:
Passing for white and identifying yourself as white is two different things.....
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I don't know where you're going with that. Have you heard Zimmerman and his brother identifying as "Hispanic" or "white"? I think that some have decided since he and his brother "look" Hispanic that they identify as such. What Zimmerman "espoused" was typical "white supremacist" fare. Who's to say?
 
bravo said:
Perhaps ?.....well, perhaps he didn't identify as white and acted accordingly....perhaps he acted like a man in fear of his life.....
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Against a teenager, armed with nothing more than a bag of Skittles, a bottle of ice tea and a cellphone. Ridiculous. He was obviously out to not let one "get away" (at least "this one"). He was on "watch" and not a policeman...he had no business carrying a gun.

What about one "actively" putting ones' self in possible danger? If he had stayed in his car, or followed the instructions of the dispatcher, he wouldn't had to fear for his life (which, according to the police video, didn't even occur).
 
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