Japan may have no choice but to shoot down the next North Korean missile test

noise said:
there is only so much an ICBM can do as a "counter-measure" -i don't think it can even release chaff.
Our ABM systems are getting better - I think Japan has some too ( besides basic Aegis)

what are you trying to say? the U2 was over 12 miles up? I don't follow your logic
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Actually they were above 12 miles, typically flying at over 70,000 ft to avoid being tailed by missiles. Of course the Soviet Union, the sneaky buggers, developed a missile that could reach that heightt and shot down Gary Powers in 1960.
 
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moon2012 said:
You still refuse to say if you think that high-altitude surveillance flights are incursions or legal. Response to you is forfeit until you do.
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I've already told you, that we can discuss this; after you provide something that supports your comment of the US flying bombers and surveillance planes over North Korea, on a DAILY BASIS
 
anatta said:
I haven't seen India or Pakistan threaten the continental US with ICBMS.

you are going to have to show me where this is legally the same.
It's a military provocation towards Japan. Not some satellite or high flying bird
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There is no 12 mile limit, he is just bullshitting.
 
Just for shits and giggles ...

"The giant TOPOL-M road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile is one frightening creation of mankind. It can hide in cities, forests, or even nuclear-attack hardened bunkers. It'll travel at over 15,000 MPH while taking evasive action and pumping out decoys on the way to its target."
 
There is a trade off between range and altitude dependent on a particular missile's characteristics. ICBMs can reach apogees of up to 750 miles. The salient point here sonny is you're out of your depth, bullshitting is an art form which you've failed to master.
 
Bigdog said:
Just for shits and giggles ...

"The giant TOPOL-M road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile is one frightening creation of mankind. It can hide in cities, forests, or even nuclear-attack hardened bunkers. It'll travel at over 15,000 MPH while taking evasive action and pumping out decoys on the way to its target."
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I am fully convinced that NK has had outside help to develop their missile program.
 
moon2012 said:
Why would NK arm a missile on a 350 mile high trajectory into the sea ?
You can safely assume that any missile on such a trajectory has no payload.
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read the post I replied to, the claim was there was no reason to shoot down an unarmed missile.........apparently you folks are counting on Kim saying "this is it!"........
 
moon2012 said:
Again- do you consider high-altitude surveillance missions to be intrusions of North Korean airspace ? You wanted clarification of US intrusions so answer the question.
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I guess we need to no longer assume you actually know what an intrusion into a nations air space actually is...
 
Hey- the tossers and tub-thumpers are actually thinking about the law ! I'll record it as a partial success.

Having posed the question of airspace sovereignty - and seen the responses of the likes of maggot and his chum, forum idiot, it's reasonable to believe that some members here have a genuine interest in the legal aspect - so let's follow it through.
Everybody , dumbfucks excluded, can agree that there is no sovereignty over ' space '- because that's already the accepted convention between nations. So where does ' space ' start ?

There is no firm boundary where outer space starts. However the Kármán line, at an altitude of 100 km (62 mi) above sea level,[7][8] is conventionally used as the start of outer space in space treaties and for aerospace records keeping. The framework for international space law was established by the Outer Space Treaty, which entered into force on 10 October 1967. This treaty precludes any claims of national sovereignty and permits all states to freely explore outer space. Despite the drafting of UN resolutions for the peaceful uses of outer space, anti-satellite weapons have been tested in Earth orbit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_space
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Treaties state 62 miles high.

The North Korean missile test was 350 miles high.

I invite comment from all JPP dumbfucks and genuinely interested parties.
 
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Bill said:
I guess we need to no longer assume you actually know what an intrusion into a nations air space actually is...
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You should be aware, bill, that that's been the intent of the line of questioning. From the replies you should have gleaned that this forum is packed with dumbfucks who have no idea- yet would willingly go to war anyway. The whole point of posting in forums like this is to expose them and generate alternative thinking.

Look- eleven post- eight of them mine;

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...minal-or-legal
 
So- ' space ' is international and starts at 62 miles high. So where does ' sovereign airspace ' end- if indeed it exists at all ?
 
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moon2012 said:
Hey- the tossers and tub-thumpers are actually thinking about the law ! I'll record it as a partial success.

Having posed the question of airspace sovereignty - and seen the responses of the likes of maggot and his chum, forum idiot, it's reasonable to believe that some members here have a genuine interest in the legal aspect - so let's follow it through.
Now then- everybody can agree that there is no sovereignty over ' space '- because that's already the accepted convention between nations. So where does ' space ' start ?



Treaties state 62 miles high.

The North Korean missile test was 350 miles high.

I invite comment from all JPP dumbfucks and genuinely interested parties.
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Speaking of JPP dumbfucks; did you ever find that information regarding US bombers and surveillance planes flying over North Korea, on a daily basis?
 
moon2012 said:
Define North Korean airspace, addlepate.
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:nonono:

You don't get to make a stupid comment and then expect me to bail you out.

You made a definitive statement, you've been challenged as to that statement, and it's your responsibility to prove that you're not a dumbass. :good4u:

I don't think you can do it. :D
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You don't get to make a stupid comment and then expect me to bail you out.

You made a definitive statement, you've been challenged as to that statement, and it's your responsibility to prove that you're not a dumbass.

I don't think you can do it.
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Tell you what- I'll keep lampooning you as you grind through your gears and you can form light relief to the serious topic.
 
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