Japan may have no choice but to shoot down the next North Korean missile test

[moon]

it's a ridiculous proposition that NK's missiles are legitimate/legal firings over Japan

But they are not ' over Japan ' are they. They are in international airspace. ' Japan ' doesn't hold sway over any airspace above 12 miles. The test vehicle passed 338 miles higher than that.
It was clearly no threat to Japan- as tracking verified in real-time. It is being used to curry the support of war-mongering tossers to whom legalities are only important when it suits them.

 

[dukkha]

But they are not ' over Japan ' are they. They are in international airspace. ' Japan ' doesn't hold sway over any airspace above 12 miles. The test vehicle passed 338 miles higher than that.
It was clearly no threat to Japan- as tracking verified in real-time. It is being used to curry the support of war-mongering tossers to whom legalities are only important when it suits them.

missile trajectories cannot be looked at as simple international airspace transverses..it's a silly conflation..

The U2 argument has some merit in that it was above Soviet claimed airspace,but that's not the same as using Japan to target it's trajectories for inevitable armed ICBMs. Japan could call it an act of war in that regards.

Best answer I can see now is to use ABMs on them

 

[moon]

missile trajectories cannot be looked at as simple international airspace transverses..it's a silly conflation..

The U2 argument has some merit in that it was above Soviet claimed airspace,but that's not the same as using Japan to target it's trajectories for inevitable armed ICBMs. Japan could call it an act of war in that regards.

Best answer I can see now is to use ABMs on them

Once you lose sight of the law you're your own enemy. As the arch-Imperialist, Churchill, is reputed to have said- " Jaw, jaw is better than war, war " - although trash like maggot like to urge others to violence. He'd be far from the shards of skull and fried intestines himself, of course.

Missile trajectories ARE international airspace transverses- whether you like it or not.

Best answer I can see now is to use ABMs on them

Primitive.

North Korea has become a nuclear power- just like Muslim Pakistan and Hindu India who also did not sign the NPT. America has good relations with them and NK should not be treated any differently.
Besides, where's your concern for the greatest threat of nuclear conflagration that there is- the neoZionist fascists of Israel ?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Japan WON'T fire at an unarmed missile.

This is more Trump stupidity. .

will the NKoreans tell us which ones are armed?.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

still waiting for that documentation, moon.....

 

[anatta]

Once you lose sight of the law you're your own enemy. As the arch-Imperialist, Churchill, is reputed to have said- " Jaw, jaw is better than war, war " - although trash like maggot like to urge others to violence. He'd be far from the shards of skull and fried intestines himself, of course.

Missile trajectories ARE international airspace transverses- whether you like it or not.



Primitive.

North Korea has become a nuclear power- just like Muslim Pakistan and Hindu India who also did not sign the NPT. America has good relations with them and NK should not be treated any differently.
Besides, where's your concern for the greatest threat of nuclear conflagration that there is- the neoZionist fascists of Israel ?

I haven't seen India or Pakistan threaten the continental US with ICBMS.

Missile trajectories ARE international airspace transverses- whether you like it or not.

you are going to have to show me where this is legally the same.
It's a military provocation towards Japan. Not some satellite or high flying bird

 

[domer76]

I haven't seen India or Pakistan threaten the continental US with ICBMS.

you are going to have to show me where this is legally the same.
It's a military provocation towards Japan. Not some satellite or high flying bird

Where's the fire and fury Trump promised?

 

[Bigdog]

there is only so much an ICBM can do as a "counter-measure" -i don't think it can even release chaff.
Our ABM systems are getting better - I think Japan has some too ( besides basic Aegis)

what are you trying to say? the U2 was over 12 miles up? I don't follow your logic

The U-2 has supposedly a 70,000 feet ceiling (13 miles). The altitude at which Power's plane was shot down is still debated. Just putting it out there

Re: counter measures - I'm just saying, once you start deploying a weapon, the enemy can start leaning it's weaknesses.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Aren't you the buffoon who thinks that 4 year old UN Resolutions don't count ? Yeppers- that's you.

Incidentally- the term ' Korean peninsular ' relates to both north and south. Now fuck off like I told you.

I see you're still trying to move those goal posts, from what you said.

 

[Bigdog]

Where's the fire and fury Trump promised?

Just waiting for South Korea's blessing. Can't you even read, dumbfuck.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

The Korean peninsular is a singular term- and your particular news trough would never make a point of highlighting national criminality abroad. Quite the opposite.

But you said NORTH KOREA; in other words, you were being very explicit.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

you are going to have to show me where this is legally the same.
It's a military provocation towards Japan. Not some satellite or high flying bird

I'm sure if the Russians, back in the 70s had flown a missile over Canada and the US, nobody would have been concerned until it actually dropped on Miami.......

 

[moon]

still waiting for that documentation, moon.....

What documentation is that, dumbass ?

 

[blackascoal]

Just waiting for South Korea's blessing. Can't you even read, dumbfuck.

You'll be waiting until the end of time.

South Koreans Seemingly Unconcerned As Trump Threatens North Korea

SEOUL ― Hours after President Donald Trump vowed to unleash “fire and fury” if North Korea threatened the United States, people in neighboring South Korea ― the most likely target of any North Korean military aggression*― showed few signs of immediate concern.

A mere 35 miles from the North Korean border, in South Korea’s bustling capital of 10 million, Seoul residents enjoyed family strolls and picnics on Wednesday’s warm summer night. In the Hongdae neighborhood - an area popular among students at the nearby Hongik University - parks were filled with young people lounging with beers and desserts as dogs played nearby. Later in the evening, popular karaoke bars were raging as partygoers lined up to enter clubs and curbs were full with people grabbing a late night bite at street food stalls.*

“People get worried here, but people in the U.S. get way more scared about the news than we do,” said Crystal, a South Korean living in Hongdae who declined to give her last name. “The South Korean people know Kim Jong Un wouldn’t do anything stupid to risk the power he already has in his country.”

Trump’s latest threats against the North Korean government were unprofessional, Crystal said, adding “he’s emotional, and his comments are dangerous.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...h-koreans-unfazed_us_598b3aa0e4b0449ed50755cb

 

[moon]

I haven't seen India or Pakistan threaten the continental US with ICBMS.

You would if the US threatened either as it has North Korea.

you are going to have to show me where this is legally the same.

The accepted national ceiling is 12 miles. As far as I'm aware there are no stated restrictions on types of vehicle using airspace above that ceiling.

It's a military provocation towards Japan. Not some satellite or high flying bird

Legal activities cannot be termed provocative.

 

[moon]

I see you're still trying to move those goal posts, from what you said.

You still refuse to say if you think that high-altitude surveillance flights are incursions or legal. Response to you is forfeit until you do.

 

[dukkha]

You would if the US threatened either as it has North Korea.

but they haven't so why did you mention them?

The accepted national ceiling is 12 miles. As far as I'm aware there are no stated restrictions on types of vehicle using airspace above that ceiling.

a missile is hardly a vehicle (unless you want to call it a vehicle of mass destruction)

Legal activities cannot be termed provocative.

you are like the only person in the universe who is making the argument the missile was legal because it was above the 12 mile limit

 

[moon]

will the NKoreans tell us which ones are armed?.....

Why would NK arm a missile on a 350 mile high trajectory into the sea ?
You can safely assume that any missile on such a trajectory has no payload.

 

[moon]

but they haven't so why did you mention them?

I mentioned them in the context of the US learning to get along with other nations who have armed themselves in spite of US opposition.

a missile is hardly a vehicle (unless you want to call it a vehicle of mass destruction)

Of course it's a vehicle.

you are like the only person in the universe who is making the argument the missile was legal because it was above the 12 mile limit

Like I said previously, North Korea's statements at the UN appear to be suppressed by the Western media. Have you seen any ? We get plenty of that stupid US delegate mouthing off about who she wants to attack.

 

[Bigdog]

You'll be waiting until the end of time.

That's fine with me.