It's ILLEGAL to shoot GAME in several states with an ASSAULT weapon.

[domer76]

STOP TRYING TO DEFLECT FROM THE POINT OF THE OP, DICKBREATH.

NO ONE IS DUSCUSSING THE POLICE, are they ASSWIPE?


READ THE OP , AGAIN, IDIOTBOY.

Let’s try again, ignorant cuntwhistle.

It’s you fucking barrel-strokers that try to claim that all semi-autos are equivalent. One more time, fucktard.

If so, why aren’t standard semi-auto long guns the design of choice for mass shooters and cops.

Now, ignorant cunt, divert again.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

The compulsion of an INCEL wanting to indulge Rambo fantasies does not trump public safety.

There is exactly zero valid reasons from the perspective of hunting or sporting that you need to have a 45 round ammunition clip in a high-powered, semi-automatic assault rifle.

You INCEL gun humpers fought tooth and nail for years against banning bump stocks. Now, everyone except the most deranged gun humper belatedly agrees bump stocks are beyond the pale. I predice that - over the long run - the INCEL compulsion to play Rambo is going to be outweighed by the reasonable need for public safety.

 

[Damocles]

Want me to ask again so you can avoid the obvious answer again?

If the standard semi-auto long rifle and the AR-15 are so fucking equivalent, as you barrel-strokers are trying to claim, why do cops and mass shooters use the latter?

I’ll wait.

Then you'll ignore the answer, regardless of how many times it is given as proven in this thread.

 

[Damocles]

are you a member of a well regulated State militia?

You again have it wrong, again, deliberately so I believe. It is because the government can call up a well trained militia (nowadays a standing army) that the people need a right to defend themselves. If you do not believe it is an individual right then you have to believe that they meant the people all the other times they used it, but not this time!

 

[domer76]

Then you'll ignore the answer, regardless of how many times it is given as proven in this thread.

Not one of you barrel-strokers has proven anything. The only thing you can supply is “the rate of fire is the same”.

Is that your extent of firearms knowledge?

 

[Damocles]

Not one of you barrel-strokers has proven anything. The only thing you can supply is “the rate of fire is the same”.

Is that your extent of firearms knowledge?

What is proven is that you ignore the answer when it is given. I have given it twice and you've ignored it twice. At this point it is a worthless exercise. You are deliberately obtuse.

The reason is that they think it looks scary like most ignorant folks whose name rhymes with Shmomer76.

 

[rjhenn]

So if I read this correctly, a NUMBER OF STATES have outlawed the assault rifle for 'game'. Just deer, other game? Of course I guess it wouldn't do much good to shoot a duck or quail with a one these. Kinda defeats the purpose if you want a bird for dinner.

Does ANYONE else find this more than just a little bit ironic? I didn't know this till 2 minutes ago.

Save your keystrokes, yes I K N O W you can't shoot people with them anywhere! But guns are for hunting, yet someone decided THESE guns are stupid to use on game or is it just not 'fair' to shoot an animal with them?


Which AR-15 Can You Hunt With?

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The AR-15 is often overlooked as a firearm that can be used for hunting game of all kinds. While there are laws that prohibit hunting with an AR-15 rifle in some states, below are some details about which AR-15 rifles should be used for hunting and where you can use them to hunt.

Know Hunting Laws

First, you should know the laws for hunting deer and other game with specific types of guns and ammunition in each state so that you don’t accidentally break the law when you start hunting. It’s best to look at the states that don’t allow deer hunting with .223 diameter bullet or an AR-15 rifle.

Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, Massachusetts, Virginia, Ohio, New Jersey, Washington, and West Virginia require larger bullets to be used to hunt game.




https://info.stagarms.com/blog/bid/381895/Which-AR-15-Can-You-Hunt-With

The reason that it's illegal in many states to hunt game the size of deer with an AR-15 is that the .223 cartridge isn't deadly enough. Yet we hear the ignorant control freaks screaming that the AR-15 is the deadliest firearm ever.

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[domer76]

What is proven is that you ignore the answer when it is given. I have given it twice and you've ignored it twice. At this point it is a worthless exercise. You are deliberately obtuse.

The reason is that they think it looks scary like most ignorant folks whose name rhymes with Shmomer76.

I have car A that goes 140mph and car B that goes 140mph.

One is an obese tank, the other is a sports car.

Same speed, right, moron?

 

[rjhenn]

That second amendment is out dated and needs changed or deleted.
The founding fathers made the Constitution so it could be changed!

There's nothing "out dated" [sic] about the 2nd Amendment. What needs to be changed or deleted are all of the stupid gun control laws that only make things worse.

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[rjhenn]

to own and bear arms in a well regulated militia

nice cherry picking pilgrim

The intent of the 2nd was that all citizens should be familiar with firearms and have their own military-grade weapons, making them suitable for service in a well regulated militia. It doesn't require anyone to serve in a militia.

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[rjhenn]

ICE and the Border Patrol are the only people standing between Illegal (non-citizens) criminals, drugs, drug gangs, human traffickers and terrorists. and the American people.

You and your left wing loons want to shut down those agencies and decriminalize illegal border crossings.

Such a radical agenda does not set well with Middle America.

In other words, take a hike...you and your illegal agenda.

You are clearly the loon.

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[Damocles]

Basically, the AR-15 (or variants thereof made by companies other than armalite) is extremely popular nowadays because it is familiar and being extremely popular it is manufactured at a higher rate. There are very cheap variants available.

Here is a decent article about this subject:

https://www.quora.com/What-gives-the-AR-15-such-a-high-muzzle-velocity

Some excerpts:

Most seem to think the AR is some type of magic weapons that does what no other rifle can do. It’s not. In fact, until the 1990s, it wasn’t a very popular rifle. Since 2001, and all the media press from shooting and the war, this has changed and it seems that every firearms manufacturer has a clone of this weapon on the market. One reason that it’s popular, too, is that it’s an issue weapon for the military and most know it from service. Personally, I prefer the Ruger 556 Mini-14 in the same caliber. It’s more like the M14 than the M16 and does not use the same magazines as the AR or the M14. My reason is simple. The safety is in the trigger guard like it was for the M1 Garand and the M14, making it much faster to switch on and off. And, since it’s 5.56mm like the AR, it fires the same ammunition. Any deviation in velocity is due to the barrel length in each weapon.

Maybe explaining this using vehicles will work better. If you have two Mustangs with the same engine, they will perform the same. It doesn’t matter what color they are, what type of mag wheels they have, or if they have an AM radio or CD player. The engine is the important part. For our weapons, it’s the 5.56mm/.223 cartridge. Change the weapons and you still have the same “engine.”

Oh, the black paint. Everyone knows that black paint increase muzzle velocity. Adding bright red flames would make it even better.

It’s a .22 caliber bullet pushed nearly as fast as it will go with powder. Due to it’s small size and low weight, it can achieve higher velocities than a .30 caliber round with the same charge.

The cartridge is the same across the board. If you take a hunting rifle, like a Remington 700 chambered for the 5.56mm/.223 Remington, it will produce the same speeds or maybe a little more because it doesn’t use some of the gas to cycle the action.

That’s why .223 is insufficient to ensure clean kills of 100 pound white tail does, and is illegal for deer hunting in many states. (this is also the reason most people don't hunt with the AR-15, not because it is "illegal" to hunt with because it is so "powerful"...)

 

[rjhenn]

Get accustomed to it, sock. He will be your next president.

Four more years.

You are forecasting the end of the great American experiment.

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[Damocles]

I have car A that goes 140mph and car B that goes 140mph.

One is an obese tank, the other is a sports car.

Same speed, right, moron?

Read the article I posted, it will explain it better to your ignorant self.

 

[Damocles]

I know in several of the more populous states one can’t hunt with a rifle at all. They’re shotgun only. Been that way for years. I’m guessing the OP lumps those states in there to bolster their “AR’s are bad and gotta go” agenda. Other than that I haven’t researched it.

Usually due to the fact that the rounds of more powerful rifles can travel a very long distance indeed and not everybody is careful to know their backdrop.

 

[rjhenn]

Oh Earl now you sound like those morons teabillies who were saying "Keep your socialist hands off my Medicare!".

You'd better start thinking about some real solutions to gun violence with high powered, high volume fire arms other than ignorant hillbilly rhetoric. Cause if it gets bad enough and people get sick enough of the unnecessary deaths and injuries that's exactly what will happen.

So spare us the witless Hillbilly platitudes and try coming up with some real solutions.

"Real solutions"? How about legalizing marijuana and treating drug addiction as a social problem instead of a criminal problem? How about putting gun safety education into all public schools? How about reducing the excessive competitiveness that drives many in our society to the edge of sanity. We need to study mass killers to determine what motivates them and where those motivations come from. Look for real root causes, instead of focusing on superficialities like guns.

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[Damocles]

Anyone who needs a 30-round ammo clip to hunt deer is obviously a terrible shot, and needs to spend much time on the target shooting range before progressing to the skilled sport of hunting.

Anyone who is shooting at ducks and quail with an AK-47 needs to be punched in the mouth and have their guns taken away.

Again, the 2nd Amendment doesn't guarantee a right to hunt, it isn't about hunting at all. I would agree however that anybody hunting duck or quail with an AK-47 is an idiot, it is certainly not a reason to curtail a natural right of a citizen. And while state governments certainly have a right to regulate the type and number of rounds you can use to hunt with, that doesn't change that I have a personal right to own and bear arms that has absolutely nothing to do with hunting.

 

[RB 60]

Let’s try again, ignorant cuntwhistle.

It’s you fucking barrel-strokers that try to claim that all semi-autos are equivalent. One more time, fucktard.

If so, why aren’t standard semi-auto long guns the design of choice for mass shooters and cops.

Now, ignorant cunt, divert again.

Your silly question was answered back on page 9, dickhead. Why can't you read?

 

[rjhenn]

I have a hunting rifle, it shoots exactly the same rounds at the same rate, etc. as my AR-15. There is absolutely zero facts in your post, just feels. It looks scary to you, I get that, but this post is just ignorance.

Control freaks don't care about facts. It's all about their paranoia about guns.

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[rjhenn]

Well I don't think many States permit automatic rifles for hunting and they certainly aren't ideal for hunting but that doesn't mean you can't.

Who's talking about "automatic rifles"?

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