Superfreak
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I've known most of the posters here for 10-15 years. So I am good.
It looks like Trump Junior Is a target.
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I've known most of the posters here for 10-15 years. So I am good.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
translation of Jarot "I'm making this up"......
Clinton supporters have absolutely no shame whatsoever
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
all those RW blogs!......
In a Tuesday interview on CNN’s 'New Day,' Sen. Tim Kaine admitted the Clinton campaign's role in manufacturing the so-called 'Steele dossier' but added that "every campaign does oppo research on its opponents."
"That’s not any evidence of collusion. That’s what done," he noted.
TIM KAINE: They’re trying to change the subject. But the good news is Director Mueller can look at all of it. We want Director Mueller to stay in place. That’s why I’m part of efforts in the Senate to limit President Trump’s ability to move on Director Mueller. He's got to stay in place. The investigation has to have the resources it needs to complete its investigation.
ALYSON CAMEROTA, CNN: But do you see these things are equivalent, the Clinton campaign looking for dirt from Russians, and Russians offering dirt to the Trump campaign?
KAINE: If you’re asking about the dossier, that was funded by an online conservative publication in Washington, The Washington Free Beacon--
CAMEROTA: At first, then the Hillary campaign, right?
KAINE: Let me finish — and they hired a firm with a British secret service agent.
And when they decided to drop it, apparently we now know that some of the funds that were paid to continue the investigation were paid for by the Clinton campaign. But we all do oppo research. Every candidate does oppo research on their opponent. You can ask any candidate for office. They do it. And hiring a firm to do oppo research is pretty common practice. That’s not any evidence of collusion. That’s what done...
But look, let's get to the bottom of it all.
Let’s all Democrats and Republicans that Director Mueller will have the complete latitude and resources to get to the bottom of this. If the president will say that and... congressional Democrats say that, then the nation will be well served.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...er_were_paid_for_by_the_clinton_campaign.html
"That’s not any evidence of collusion. That’s what done," he noted.
TIM KAINE: They’re trying to change the subject. But the good news is Director Mueller can look at all of it. We want Director Mueller to stay in place. That’s why I’m part of efforts in the Senate to limit President Trump’s ability to move on Director Mueller. He's got to stay in place. The investigation has to have the resources it needs to complete its investigation.
ALYSON CAMEROTA, CNN: But do you see these things are equivalent, the Clinton campaign looking for dirt from Russians, and Russians offering dirt to the Trump campaign?
KAINE: If you’re asking about the dossier, that was funded by an online conservative publication in Washington, The Washington Free Beacon--
CAMEROTA: At first, then the Hillary campaign, right?
KAINE: Let me finish — and they hired a firm with a British secret service agent.
And when they decided to drop it, apparently we now know that some of the funds that were paid to continue the investigation were paid for by the Clinton campaign. But we all do oppo research. Every candidate does oppo research on their opponent. You can ask any candidate for office. They do it. And hiring a firm to do oppo research is pretty common practice. That’s not any evidence of collusion. That’s what done...
But look, let's get to the bottom of it all.
Let’s all Democrats and Republicans that Director Mueller will have the complete latitude and resources to get to the bottom of this. If the president will say that and... congressional Democrats say that, then the nation will be well served.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...er_were_paid_for_by_the_clinton_campaign.html
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
lol.....you just asked an ambulance chaser if he knows what solicitation means.....Jarod violates that law every day......
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
poor Jarot......another Florida lawyer thread fail.......
signalmankenneth
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Collusion is not a crime by itself. Here are the charges Mueller could be exploring.
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III fired his opening salvo this week, unsealing charges against three former Trump campaign aides thought to have engaged in a medley of wrongdoing.
The cases he revealed, legal analysts said, indicate he is pursuing an extensive probe that will explore both personal wrongdoing of those connected with President Trump and possible efforts campaign officials took to work with Russia to influence the 2016 election.
Collusion — the word Trump often uses to describe Mueller's case, even as he asserts such a thing never happened — is not itself a crime, and Mueller's team will probably have to sort through unseemly political dealings to determine whether a law was broken, legal analysts said.
In his first public charges, though, Mueller offered a hint of the direction he might take.
Former campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, for example, pleaded guilty to making a false statement to FBI investigators who asked about his contacts with foreigners claiming to have high-level Russian connections.
Of particular note, he falsely described his interactions with a London-based professor claiming to have connections to high-level Russian officials who purportedly had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails."
Papadopoulos said his interactions with the professor — thought to be Joseph Mifsud, the director of the London Academy of Diplomacy — occurred before he joined the campaign and did not amount to much. In fact, the professor told him about the emails in April 2016 — after his role on the campaign was made public — and the two were involved in extensive discussions about a possible meeting between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, according to Papadopoulos's plea agreement.
The conversation about emails is possibly a critical piece of evidence, legal analysts said. That is because one charge that investigators might try to substantiate against those higher in the Trump campaign is a conspiracy to violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
If Mueller can find evidence that members of Trump's team conspired in Russia's hacking effort — by directing it or aiding in another way — they might face criminal charges, legal analysts said. Papadopoulos's plea says that he discussed some of his efforts to broker a meeting with the Russians with other, more senior Trump campaign officials — although some seemed to treat him warily.
"There's a significant difference between the Russians having dirt and offering that dirt, and someone asking the Russians to commit an illegal act to obtain that dirt," said Jacob Frenkel, a white-collar lawyer at Dickinson Wright who previously worked in the now-defunct Office of the Independent Counsel. "The latter likely would be prosecutable, and probably as a conspiracy to commit a computer crime or as a computer crime."
Papadopoulos's conversation about "emails of Clinton" took place a month after Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta's email account was hacked and well before WikiLeaks released his messages. Also, it was not until June 2016 that The Washington Post reportedthat the Democratic National Committee's computer network had been breached.
But at that time, it was well known that Clinton had deleted tens of thousands of emails she deemed personal from her private server. Those messages were of great interest to Republicans who believed they might show something nefarious.
It was unclear to what emails the professor was referring or if he truly had access to any messages damaging to Clinton. Jonathan Biran, a former federal prosecutor now in private practice at Biran Kelly, said Mueller's team is probably asking, "What did people within the campaign know about how those emails had been obtained," and whether they had reason to believe they were illegally obtained.
Aaron Zelinsky, a lawyer in the special counsel's office, said at Papadopoulos's plea hearing, which was held in secret earlier this month, that the foreign policy adviser's case was a "small part" of a "large-scale ongoing investigation." Though Papadopoulos was first arrested in July, the court kept his case sealed for months after prosecutors asserted that making it public would "significantly undermine his ability to serve as a proactive cooperator."
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, his longtime business partner, were charged in a separate, 12-count indictment in connection with their work advising a Russia-friendly political party in Ukraine. While their charges do not directly relate to their roles on the Trump campaign, legal analysts said the case could offer a preview of how Mueller plans to proceed.
Among many other counts, including conspiracy to launder money and failing to file reports of foreign bank accounts, Manafort and Gates were charged with carrying out a conspiracy against the United States. Specifically, the special counsel alleged that they worked to defraud the Justice and Treasury departments as they tried to hide their incomes and lobbying work for Ukrainian interests.
Mueller could be working to convince Manafort and Gates to cooperate, and he could also be trying to send a message to others in Trump's orbit that he will leave no stone unturned and that those who deceive investigators will be charged, legal analysts said.
But Mueller also could be signaling a charge he could pursue in connection with the coordination case — a conspiracy to defraud the United States by coordinating with Russia.
"Collusion is not a crime, but basically the criminal equivalent is conspiracy," said former federal prosecutor Randall Eliason. "You could have a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. by interfering with our election."
Mueller must also separate efforts that might seem seedy from those that are illegal.
An opposition research firm funded by Clinton's campaign and the DNC tapped a former British spy to dig into Trump's personal and business dealings, and the former spy purportedly solicited information from Russian government officials. That work might similarly be viewed as an unsavory effort to engage with foreign interests to win an election, but it would not necessarily be illegal if there was no conspiracy to defraud anyone, legal analysts said.
"There could be something out there that stinks to high heaven," Frenkel said, "but it doesn't make it a violation of law."
By Matt Zapotosky
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III fired his opening salvo this week, unsealing charges against three former Trump campaign aides thought to have engaged in a medley of wrongdoing.
The cases he revealed, legal analysts said, indicate he is pursuing an extensive probe that will explore both personal wrongdoing of those connected with President Trump and possible efforts campaign officials took to work with Russia to influence the 2016 election.
Collusion — the word Trump often uses to describe Mueller's case, even as he asserts such a thing never happened — is not itself a crime, and Mueller's team will probably have to sort through unseemly political dealings to determine whether a law was broken, legal analysts said.
In his first public charges, though, Mueller offered a hint of the direction he might take.
Former campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, for example, pleaded guilty to making a false statement to FBI investigators who asked about his contacts with foreigners claiming to have high-level Russian connections.
Of particular note, he falsely described his interactions with a London-based professor claiming to have connections to high-level Russian officials who purportedly had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails."
Papadopoulos said his interactions with the professor — thought to be Joseph Mifsud, the director of the London Academy of Diplomacy — occurred before he joined the campaign and did not amount to much. In fact, the professor told him about the emails in April 2016 — after his role on the campaign was made public — and the two were involved in extensive discussions about a possible meeting between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, according to Papadopoulos's plea agreement.
The conversation about emails is possibly a critical piece of evidence, legal analysts said. That is because one charge that investigators might try to substantiate against those higher in the Trump campaign is a conspiracy to violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
If Mueller can find evidence that members of Trump's team conspired in Russia's hacking effort — by directing it or aiding in another way — they might face criminal charges, legal analysts said. Papadopoulos's plea says that he discussed some of his efforts to broker a meeting with the Russians with other, more senior Trump campaign officials — although some seemed to treat him warily.
"There's a significant difference between the Russians having dirt and offering that dirt, and someone asking the Russians to commit an illegal act to obtain that dirt," said Jacob Frenkel, a white-collar lawyer at Dickinson Wright who previously worked in the now-defunct Office of the Independent Counsel. "The latter likely would be prosecutable, and probably as a conspiracy to commit a computer crime or as a computer crime."
Papadopoulos's conversation about "emails of Clinton" took place a month after Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta's email account was hacked and well before WikiLeaks released his messages. Also, it was not until June 2016 that The Washington Post reportedthat the Democratic National Committee's computer network had been breached.
But at that time, it was well known that Clinton had deleted tens of thousands of emails she deemed personal from her private server. Those messages were of great interest to Republicans who believed they might show something nefarious.
It was unclear to what emails the professor was referring or if he truly had access to any messages damaging to Clinton. Jonathan Biran, a former federal prosecutor now in private practice at Biran Kelly, said Mueller's team is probably asking, "What did people within the campaign know about how those emails had been obtained," and whether they had reason to believe they were illegally obtained.
Aaron Zelinsky, a lawyer in the special counsel's office, said at Papadopoulos's plea hearing, which was held in secret earlier this month, that the foreign policy adviser's case was a "small part" of a "large-scale ongoing investigation." Though Papadopoulos was first arrested in July, the court kept his case sealed for months after prosecutors asserted that making it public would "significantly undermine his ability to serve as a proactive cooperator."
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, his longtime business partner, were charged in a separate, 12-count indictment in connection with their work advising a Russia-friendly political party in Ukraine. While their charges do not directly relate to their roles on the Trump campaign, legal analysts said the case could offer a preview of how Mueller plans to proceed.
Among many other counts, including conspiracy to launder money and failing to file reports of foreign bank accounts, Manafort and Gates were charged with carrying out a conspiracy against the United States. Specifically, the special counsel alleged that they worked to defraud the Justice and Treasury departments as they tried to hide their incomes and lobbying work for Ukrainian interests.
Mueller could be working to convince Manafort and Gates to cooperate, and he could also be trying to send a message to others in Trump's orbit that he will leave no stone unturned and that those who deceive investigators will be charged, legal analysts said.
But Mueller also could be signaling a charge he could pursue in connection with the coordination case — a conspiracy to defraud the United States by coordinating with Russia.
"Collusion is not a crime, but basically the criminal equivalent is conspiracy," said former federal prosecutor Randall Eliason. "You could have a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. by interfering with our election."
Mueller must also separate efforts that might seem seedy from those that are illegal.
An opposition research firm funded by Clinton's campaign and the DNC tapped a former British spy to dig into Trump's personal and business dealings, and the former spy purportedly solicited information from Russian government officials. That work might similarly be viewed as an unsavory effort to engage with foreign interests to win an election, but it would not necessarily be illegal if there was no conspiracy to defraud anyone, legal analysts said.
"There could be something out there that stinks to high heaven," Frenkel said, "but it doesn't make it a violation of law."
By Matt Zapotosky
“No person shall knowingly solicit, accept or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation," reads Title 11 in the Code of Federal Regulations, section 110.20 (g). A contribution can be "anything of value," including negative information about a political opponent.”
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Just curious, as to what you're going to say; when your desire fails to come to fruition?
You’d better review Junior’s emails, moron. He invited the Russians to his house. Obvious solicitation to anyone except idiot hacks like you.
It doesn’t matter what the meeting turned into. The act of solicitation had already been made.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
singlemankenny has lots of empty circles......we should call them nothing circles.....
lol
11 CFR 300.2
"For the purposes of part 300, to solicit means to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value. A solicitation is an oral or written communication that, construed as reasonably understood in the context in which it is made, contains a clear message asking, requesting, or recommending that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value. A solicitation may be made directly or indirectly. The context includes the conduct of persons involved in the communication. A solicitation does not include mere statements of political support or mere guidance as to the applicability of a particular law or regulation.
For the purposes of part 300,to solicit means to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value. A solicitation is an oral or written communication that, construed as reasonably understood in the context in which it is made, contains a clear message asking, requesting, or recommending that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value. A solicitation may be made directly or indirectly. The context includes the conduct of persons involved in the communication. A solicitation does not include mere statements of political support or mere guidance as to the applicability of a particular law or regulation."
Read it and weep, pally.