Are you saying that all men should be grouped into the same category? Interesting
Aren't you one of those that said all Muslims shouldn't be grouped that way because a few did something bad?
It is pointless to exchange with a gun hugger on gun reform,
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Are you saying that all men should be grouped into the same category? Interesting
Aren't you one of those that said all Muslims shouldn't be grouped that way because a few did something bad?
Sirthinksalot
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You are a giant pain in the ass. There is no discussing anything rationally with hemorrhoids.
No.
Instead I learned how to swim.
I've read 2A several times.
I don't recall any qualifying clause for either geography, or population density.
To shorten your squabble, it's not a binary.
- Is there a the most solitary citizen in the U.S.? Citizen "A"? ok
- Is there a the most population congested, urbanized citizen in the U.S.? Citizen "Z"? why not
Therefore the remaining 320 million of us live in conditions somewhere in between.
The binary is whether they carry a gun or not.
Our 2nd Amendment doesn't say we have to ask N #214's opinion if we are to carry a gun. What it says is: "shall not be infringed."
Sure.
Please quote with link the study that concludes all policemen and U.S. military personnel have weak gender identity.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Wow, that's all you could come up with????
1.) So you're saying that "knowing how to swim" makes you immune from the risk of ever drowning and your raincoat (gun) protects you from water no matter what form the peril it's causing you takes, even if you were to find yourself trapped under it with no air?
Get outta here.
Your allusion to the protection from water offered by a raincoat being comparable to the protection from harm offered by a gun, is as I said, a false equivalency. Oversimplification at best.
2.) More absurdity. The vast majority of US citizens live in developed cities and towns where dangerous wild animals are virtually non-existent and on the rare occasions when they do appear, it's not necessary to shoot them to protect yourself. Actually, in most places it's not even legal to kill these animals yourself. That's what 911 and animal control is for. The very notion that in 2018, protection from animals is a legitimate reason to need a gun for more than a tiny percentage of the population is beyond retarded. If you're going to be a soulless shill for gun ownership, you ought to try harder to create better fake, bullshit reasons for owning them.
3.) Re: all the 2nd Amendment garbage you gun huggers always resort to hiding behind.
That has become nothing more than an empty technicality these days. If it weren't for all the gutless politicians receiving the huge sums of money being paid to them by the greedy gun industry through their sleazy NRA lobbyists, all for the purpose of allowing them to market their little death machines to brainless goobers and rednecks as if they were no different than any other product, like lawn mowers or vacuum cleaners or bicycles, the 2nd Amendment would've been repealed like it should've been, long ago.
4.) Police officers and military personnel are paid to enforce the law and protect America and its citizens. They and a (very) few others, are the only people who have a legitimate and genuine need to carry firearms.
Now take your guns and go hide in fear and paranoia behind the 2nd Amendment.
No.
That's your assertion, not mine.
My point was substantially more sophisticated than that, and thus obviously above your head.
The challenge to which I responded was: "Do you not fear drowning?" N #214
The answer is no. I prefer to continue to live in confident competence rather than to grovel my life away in fear and cowardice; you know, the way you do.
I was never there in the first place cupcake. I don't cower.
To the simple-minded it might surely seem so.
But to those of us with intellectual means, it's simply a practical reminder that rather than "fear" (your exact word), I take precautions.
It doesn't mean I quiver in terror in a deep puddle of my own urine and vomit, under my bed, driven mad by self-concocted horrors about shoulda woulda coulda.
I live life to the full.
- I'm a licensed hunter.
- I'm a licensed car driver.
- I'm a licensed motorcyclist.
- I'm a licensed hang glider pilot.
- I bicycled over 1,500 miles last year, and hope the season will last long enough in 2018 for a repeat.
- I rappel (mountaineering)
- I swim
- I snorkel
- I water ski
- I sail
- I camp
- and if all that's not daring enough, I eat my own cooking.
Fear is for children sir or m'am.
I have no time, and no patience for it. I'm not immortal. My time will come. It's not here yet. So I live life to the full, already have outdoor activities planned for tomorrow.
Yes.
P.T. Barnum explained it quite ably.
I don't answer for them.
I live on my own estate, hundreds of acres inside the Adirondack Park, the largest nature preserve in the lower 48 East of the Mississippi.
Here's the view from my kitchen window:
My nearest neighbors are deer friends of mine.
Oh.
So that's it.
I knew there was a trick to it. They're paid!
Thanks for the tip.
Problem is, I could probably get a hot pizza delivered faster than I could get a COP up here.
I've been here for decades. We take care of ourselves up here.
And that the world wasn't created some 6.000 years, that it is a globe, that the USA is Christian and that Mr Trump is sane - naturally!
zappasguitar
Well-known member
It implies just what it sounds like.
That gun ownership is more important to some than the lives of innocent children.
zappasguitar
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Nope, tried that in the past and all it got me was laughed at.
It's YOUR turn.
Y-O-U, who feel guns are more important than the lives of innocent children.
What regulation will you support?
I support making all schools gun free zones and passing laws saying one person shouldn't murder others. Wait, haven't such things been done?
I support banning all guns that have been shown they have the ability to grow arms/legs, have walked to the location where the shooting took place, and fired themselves. Wait, that hasn't happened.
What I don't and never will support is placing the focus on something that didn't cause the action simply because people like you hate guns.
Getin the ring
Verified User
does someone have to pound it in you?
Cause I'm available
We are all, each and every one of us all for any ideas you, or any one has that would stop these senseless killings.
We are still waiting for your side to say something intelligent ((crickets))
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Do you know who was not willing to discuss some minimal regulation of guns? The founding fathers of this country! But the British were all for regulations, which is what led to the battles of Lexington and Concord.
Here's your flag -->
And the weapons owned by almost everyone was a single shot musket that took forever to reload.
But hey what they used during the revolution was no different from the weapons used to massacre dozens today, right?
zappasguitar
Well-known member
You see the above response?
THAT is exactly the type of childish response I get every time the regulations of firearms is mentioned.
So I want to hear from others...you don't want regulation, then how do YOU propose to stop the murder of innocent children?
Getin the ring
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and here, stew on this, Chicago has the worse gun violence
Chicago itself has some tough laws — there is an assault-weapons ban in Cook County, for example. But it's not true that Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country. At one point, it did have much tougher laws — it had banned handguns in the city limits, but a 2008 Supreme Court ruling declared that ban unconstitutional, and a 2010 ruling reaffirmed that. The city also had had a gun registry program since 1968, but ended it in 2013 when the state passed a law allowing the concealed carry of weapons.
2008, Obama was president, 2010, Obama was president, 2013, Obama was president.
And all along Chicago is run by Democrats, predominantly Democrat legislators, police force predominantly black, and police chief, black
Chicago itself has some tough laws — there is an assault-weapons ban in Cook County, for example. But it's not true that Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country. At one point, it did have much tougher laws — it had banned handguns in the city limits, but a 2008 Supreme Court ruling declared that ban unconstitutional, and a 2010 ruling reaffirmed that. The city also had had a gun registry program since 1968, but ended it in 2013 when the state passed a law allowing the concealed carry of weapons.
2008, Obama was president, 2010, Obama was president, 2013, Obama was president.
And all along Chicago is run by Democrats, predominantly Democrat legislators, police force predominantly black, and police chief, black
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I don't own a gun. Don't assume a person will not accept regulations because he has not heard one that will accomplish anything. If I knew of a regulation that would have prevented any of the killings I would have already listed it. In the Florida case I think I might raise the age of owning a long gun to 21.
You are the one calling for something to be done.
cawacko
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Ok, so your premise is a lie
zappasguitar
Well-known member
BINGO!
It is big mouthed pissant little cowards like CFM that are the threat these days.
They make a big tough sound, then when time comes to back up their big mouth, they need something more than fists.
He needs the added courage that come with strapping on their surrogate "manhood".
zappasguitar
Well-known member
I'm sure that's what those who value gun ownership more than they do the lives of children would like everyone to believe.
What's childish about pointing out the type regulations gun hater propose don't work?
Using the two most recent situations, I propose the entities that are responsible and could have prevented both of them start doing their fucking job. Are you going to call that childish?
Unlike you liars that make it an either/or, I value both. The thing is I'm smart enough to know you don't really care about the lives of those children just using them to further your hate for guns.