It is pointless to exchange with a gun hugger on gun reform,

iolo said:
You racist crap, obviously. Stop working your usual fartish way, and think about children's lives instead of your racist posturing.
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Tell us Einstein how identifying you as a British citizen is racist in any sense of the word. Perhaps the UK has a different definition for racism. If so pleas expound on it! If not then fuck you and your inputs!
 
archives said:
No, it has only been "misinterpreted" since the Roberts Court, the prior 225 years the Court got it right, it was Scalia's Court that threw out all the prior precedents and decided to go on their own

Didn't I mention, gun huggers don't understand the Constitution nor even the Second Amendmemt they supposedly worship?
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You're a lying faggot, show me a single SCOTUS decision in which the court ruled that the 2nd amendment was not an individual right???

And this proves the point, Archives doesn't want gun regulation he wants individual gun ownership prohibited.
 
archives said:
Not true, and you wanted a list of cases going back to 1875? I gave you the one you know, well, I assumed you knew given the others didn't decide in the way you'd prefer.

And now your telling us you know more than all of these Supreme Courts over the course of a hundred and fifty years who could never reach the conclusion you just did because of "commentators?" It ain't "commentators" that count, rather the Comstitution, and the way the Constitution is interpreted by the Court
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You are such a lying faggot you can not provide a single SCOTUS decision in which the court ruled that the 2nd amendment is not an individual right, such a case does not exist you lying little fuck.
 
archives said:
Yeah, Heller, previous cases couldn't get beyond the prefatory clause, but Scalia thought it would be alright to just skip over it, and then he told America he was a strict constructionist
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The previous cases didn't get beyond the militia clause because that was the issue in front of the court I.E. armed organized rallies you stupid fuck.
 
PraiseKek said:
You're a lying faggot, show me a single SCOTUS decision in which the court ruled that the 2nd amendment was not an individual right???

And this proves the point, Archives doesn't want gun regulation he wants individual gun ownership prohibited.
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But he doesn't want to take your guns away he just wants to make it impossible to own one.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
As is true every time one of these preventable disasters happens -- my first reaction is OMG OMG those poor people, those poor parents. Almost 20 years ago it started with Columbine, and hasn't faded since, whether it was a school or a public venue like Las Vegas or the Pulse nightclub or Virginia Tech or churches or the never-ending parade of workplace shootings.

Then comes the anger, from the gut. Our culture of violence, worship of war, equating weapons with strength and reason with weakness... and most of all.... the mis-interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. The tunnel vision of the gun-humpers sees only "right to bear arms." It doesn't see the rest about "well-regulated militia." The gun-humpers cry "I've never done anything wrong with my dic....er, guns.... why should I be penalized because some guy with the same guns killed 59 ppl going to a concert?"

Somehow, the right of the gun-suckers to have the "freedom" to own their peni--- um, weapons has triumphed over your right to walk free from harm when you go to church, when you send your children to school, when you take your sweetie to a concert, when you're in your place of work. Like jack-lighted deer, we've let these fellow citizens frighten us into silence just so they can lovingly annoint their dealers-of-death with special oil and cherish them more than they cherish your life or mine -- or the lives of our country's children. We can't give 100% of the blame to the gun-fuckers. They in turn have been jack-lighted by the NRA, the conservative media, and the arms makers by means of fear. They truly believe, at least the stupidest of them, that "regulation" means someone confiscating their cold metal gonads. Then they'll be at the mercy of the thugs, brown people (redundant), and worse of all -- the government -- that the rest of us seem to be able to avoid and/or live in peace with.
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:hand::hand::hand:
 
"Yea with the troubles they have with terrorist in the UK it is amusing to see a Brit whining about our gun laws." EE #163
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a) Recent mass shootings in the U.K.? Do tell.

b) Perhaps soon they'll outlaw the lorry. Then it'll be as safe there as in Paris.

c) In the U.K. they're royal subjects. We're citizens.

d) And of course they'd grouse about our 2nd Amendment. What would you expect from the Brits General Washington handed it to? 'nuf said
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Then they'll be at the mercy of the thugs, brown people (redundant), and worse of all -- the government -- that the rest of us seem to be able to avoid and/or live in peace with.
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just because you are fine with being a coward and submitting to unconstitutional demands of a government, does not mean that the rest of us should disregard our freedom. if you're at peace with being a slave to the state, that's something YOU need to look at, not the rest of us.
 
PraiseKek said:
Bullshit as always you sick fucks were here on day one using the corpses of dead children as your soap box to spout your anti-Constitutional agenda, get fucked.
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You've got it backwards, moron. It's you gun nuts using the corpses of the dead to bleat about the 2nd Amendment without regard to the well-being of people who did nothing to deserve their deaths.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
of course they were. nobody is doubting that. but if your contention is that people shouldn't own tools intended to kill, why do you support government having them?
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I support the government having the right kind of weapons to defend the country against hostile invaders. That doesn't mean individuals having the right to own tanks, missiles or nukes.

What do you believe the government is doing to take away your freedoms that would make you take up arms?
 
A few years ago, even the NRA was on board with background checks. But gun manufacturers are in charge of that organization and saw more sales by eliminating it. You gun lovers are protecting the maufacturers with citing a weak and terrible constitutional basis. It was written in about 1776. That does not cover what guns have become. Long past time to do something about guns. The 2nd does not eliminate cbackground checks. It does not eliminate selling guns to kids. It does not cover selling to mentally deficients. That is because they never thought of it. Not because it is not needed. Time to grow up and do the right thing.
 
christiefan915 said:
I support the government having the right kind of weapons to defend the country against hostile invaders. That doesn't mean individuals having the right to own tanks, missiles or nukes.
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but you have no power to prevent them from using those same weapons against civilian american citizens, so why do you support tyranny?

christiefan915 said:
What do you believe the government is doing to take away your freedoms that would make you take up arms?
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over the years here you have shown yourself to be intelligent, so how can you possibly think that there are no freedoms being taken away by government, even without talking about arms?
 
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