Israel claims "ironclad" proof that the Obama administration was behind U.N. rebuke

Darth Hussein Omar said:
For the UN---they're taking a hit on this.

It's easy to get bogged down in the historical complexities of the Palestinian issue; moreover, one side in particular is good at using those complexities to obfuscate on it.

But there's a simple remedy: tell the Palestinians to rid themselves of Hamas. Until they do, refuse to even negotiate with them.
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The world is no longer supporting Israel's actions, you really should pay attention to what is going on beyond your four walls.
 
Queen Snowflake said:
The world is no longer supporting Israel's actions, you really should pay attention to what is going on beyond your four walls.
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It would be nice if we could get more of 'the world' to put pressure on the Palestinians like they do with Israel.

Hamas is a radical Islamic terrorist organization. The Palestinians should be sanctioned by the UN for not ridding themselves of them.

But their obsession with Israel continues unabated.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
It would be nice if we could get more of 'the world' to put pressure on the Palestinians like they do with Israel.

Hamas is a radical Islamic terrorist organization. The Palestinians should be sanctioned by the UN for not ridding themselves of them.

But their obsession with Israel continues unabated.
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I agree with you on this. Let's push to make them full members of the UN so they can be sanctioned.
 
Guille said:
Your response has nothing to do with your political suicide comment I disagreed with.
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orchestration would bring out the AIPAC types en mass from both parties condemnation

Actually, things are right or wrong quite a bit.
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realpolitik says it does not matter. States act in their own interest, not in some moral ephemeral sphere

I do.
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Like they say in Missouri- "show me"
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
It would be nice if we could get more of 'the world' to put pressure on the Palestinians like they do with Israel.

Hamas is a radical Islamic terrorist organization. The Palestinians should be sanctioned by the UN for not ridding themselves of them.

But their obsession with Israel continues unabated.
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You know so little, like most Americans on this subject. How can you sanction the Palestinians?
 
anatta said:
orchestration would bring out the AIPAC types en mass from both parties condemnation

realpolitik says it does not matter. States act in their own interest, not in some moral ephemeral sphere

Like they say in Missouri- "show me"
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You hit the nail on the head with AIPAC. This country isn't pro-Israel, the prostitutes in Congress are pro-AIPAC cash.
 
Milagro said:
Yes they do, and even Canadian Jews for that matter!

http://m.jpost.com/Diplomatic-Confe...23MzlENTQ0NUYzNDFBNDQ1RjJENzU0QUU1NjNFQkI2REQ

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I cannot support Israel as long as Netanyahu is in office’– many American Jews are saying
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/01/when-...rt-says-a-jewish-leader/#sthash.hUFcHvb9.dpuf

American Jews, Speak Out Against Netanyahu’s Policies
The Israeli prime minister and the majority of U.S. Jews fundamentally disagree on key issues.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/.premium-1.643034

American Jews Are Angry With Netanyahu
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.645963

On how American Jews are Mostly the Opposite of Israeli PM Binyamin Netanyahu
http://www.juancole.com/2013/10/american-binyamin-netanyahu.html

American Jews Reject the Israel Lobby—and Support the Iran Deal
The war coalition of billionaires, fundamentalists, and Netanyahu cronies doesn't speak for Jewish opinion.

The Israel Lobby does not represent most Jews. Sound surprising? You’d never know it from most TV talk shows or Republicans denouncing the Iran agreement as a terminal threat to Israel, and least of all from “The Lobby” itself. Its intimidating power depends upon the myth that it represents all American Jews, when it does not even represent a majority. It should really be called the “Likud Lobby,” representing Netanyahu, neoconservatives, militant settlers on the West Bank, evangelicals (mainly old ones) impatient for Armageddon, and the military-industrial complex.

Most American Jews are divided or just don’t care, just like other Americans. The young, especially, do not support the policies of Israeli or American hawks seeking more wars in the Middle East. Many Jewish voices are in accord on the pact.

By a 20-point margin in various polls, American Jews support the Iran agreement. The largest circulation Jewish newspapers carry balanced analyses and discussions. The Jewish Week’s publisher, Gary Rosenblatt, reports interesting and typical polling on Jewish Americans in an article, “Iran Deal Driving Jews Further Apart“
http://www.theamericanconservative....t-the-israel-lobby-and-support-the-iran-deal/

The Growing Gap between Israel and American Jews
http://thejerusalemconnection.us/blog/2016/11/15/growing-gap-israel-american-jews/

'nuff said.
 
domer76 said:
People with lower than average IQs see it as binary.
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...Detroit... oh, wrong thread ...fuck it... ...Detroit...

You're right, people with lower than average IQs do resort to binary thinking, so do people with above average IQs. People in the middle however like to take simple shit and make it way more complicated than it needs to be, usually because they're being intellectually dishonest with themselves and others.
 
blackascoal said:
'nuff said.
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Of course there's a gap. Not all "Jews" are "Jews".

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
Rev. 3:9

A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise is not from men, but from God.
Rom. 2:28,29

These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men.
Isaiah 29:13



Not all "Christians are "Christians."

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Mat. 7: 21-23
 
Stretch said:
Of course there's a gap. Not all "Jews" are "Jews".

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
Rev. 3:9

A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise is not from men, but from God.
Rom. 2:28,29

These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men.
Isaiah 29:13



Not all "Christians are "Christians."

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Mat. 7: 21-23
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Let's go with those who are identifiable as opposed to the imaginary ones.
 
anatta said:
JERUSALEM - Doubling down on its public break with the Obama administration, a furious Israeli government on Tuesday said it had received “ironclad” information from Arab sources that Washington actively helped craft last week’s U.N. resolution declaring Israeli settlements illegal.

The allegations further poisoned the increasingly toxic atmosphere between Israel and the outgoing Obama administration in the wake of Friday’s vote, and raised questions about whether the White House might take further action against Israeli settlements in its final weeks in office.

With the U.S. expected to participate in an international peace conference in France next month and Secretary of State John Kerry planning a final policy speech, the Palestinians said they were hoping to capitalize on the momentum from the Security Council vote.

Although the U.S. has long opposed Israeli settlements on occupied lands, it has traditionally used its veto in the U.N. Security Council to protect its ally Israel from international censure. But in a change of policy, it abstained from Friday’s vote, allowing the resolution to pass by a 14-0 margin.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has long had a cool relationship with President Barack Obama, has called the resolution “shameful” and accused the U.S. of playing a leading role in its passage.

On Tuesday, his spokesman went even further.


“We’re not just going to be a punching bag and go quietly into the night as the Obama administration helps push such a grave resolution,” he said.

He did not identify the Arab sources or say how Israel obtained the information. Israel has close security ties with Egypt, an original sponsor of last week’s resolution. Under heavy Israeli pressure, Egypt delayed the resolution last week before other council members presented it for a vote a day later. Egypt ended up voting in favor of the measure.

Keyes claim mirrors that of his boss Netanyahu, who told his Cabinet on Sunday:

Netanyahu insists that there is nothing wrong with his controversial policy of building Jewish towns in occupied areas that the Palestinians, with overwhelming world support, claim for their state.

U.S. Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power defended the U.S. abstention, saying, “We would not have let this resolution pass if it hadn’t addressed counterproductive steps by the Palestinians.” And she added that the vote “does not in any way diminish the United States’ steadfast and unparalleled commitment to the security of Israel.”

Power also warned that settlements make it harder to negotiate a separate Palestinian state, which the administration believes is crucial to a lasting peace, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan reports.

“The United States has been sending a message that the settlements must stop, privately and publicly, for nearly five decades,” Power said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-claims-ironclad-proof-obama-administration-behind-un-rebuke/
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Now we know just who propagates antisemitism. This is the election that just keeps giving and giving....you have to love the open transparency they have attempted to hide until they lost the election. They (the left) have demonstrated themselves to be everything they have accused others of being over the past 60 years. Priceless.

This finally reveals their closeted BIGOTRY....and its all caused by "narcissism".
 
blackascoal said:
Let's go with those who are identifiable as opposed to the imaginary ones.
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You need to be able to tell the difference to realize that there some Jews here in the U.S. who are not really Jews. Hence, the reason why there are some for, others against Netanyahu.
 
Stretch said:
You need to be able to tell the difference to realize that there some Jews here in the U.S. who are not really Jews. Hence, the reason why there are some for, others against Netanyahu.
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There are lots of 'Jews' in Israel who aren't really Jews.

We can't tell the difference, nor should we.

There is no race named 'Jewish' .. it's a religion.
 
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