Israel claims "ironclad" proof that the Obama administration was behind U.N. rebuke

BAC, do you think the Democratic Senators who are speaking out against Obama for this really mean it or are doing it just to appeal to their Jewish constituents?
 
cawacko said:
BAC, do you think the Democratic Senators who are speaking out against Obama for this really mean it or are doing it just to appeal to their Jewish constituents?
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I think they feel beholden to Israel.

Their Jewish constituents have been among Obama's strongest supporters.

Had Obama been running against Trump today, who do you think they would support?

American Jews don't support Netan-a-yahoo :0)
 
blackascoal said:
I think they feel beholden to Israel.

Their Jewish constituents have been among Obama's strongest supporters.

Had Obama been running against Trump today, who do you think they would support?
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this isn't directed at you but don't really care to be honest.
 
iolo said:
How very wicked it would be if the UN were allowed to represent the views of the whole world and ignore the Goebbels-bellowing of Netemyahu! Heil Trump and Death to Humanity!
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Ahhhh, so it's 'wicked' you enjoy...............

 
The only thing Obama did wrong here was not doing it out in the open. If you're going to do something like this then grow a pair and own it.
 
Guille said:
The only thing Obama did wrong here was not doing it out in the open. If you're going to do something like this then grow a pair and own it.
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it would be political suicide to orchestrate a UN vote against Israel.
It would be an "open" slap in the face too,even though the settlements shold not be so far -reaching.

It should be negotiated by the parties involved.
 
cawacko said:
To each his own as to why they come to this board but so much of the talk here is about the horse race part of politics. Arguing or debating whether Trump or Obama would have won has no interest to me.
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I don't care about that .. it was simply hypothetical.

However, my question was whether you agree that American Jews would still support Obama.
 
anatta said:
it would be political suicide to orchestrate a UN vote against Israel.
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No, it wouldn't.

anatta said:
It would be an "open" slap in the face too,even though the settlements shold not be so far -reaching.
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Yes, it would be a slap in the face. Why do you care how far-reaching the settlements are? They're either right or wrong.

anatta said:
It should be negotiated by the parties involved.
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Ideally but only peers can negotiate. I think the solution to this problem will come from outside that region.
 
anatta said:
JERUSALEM - Doubling down on its public break with the Obama administration, a furious Israeli government on Tuesday said it had received “ironclad” information from Arab sources that Washington actively helped craft last week’s U.N. resolution declaring Israeli settlements illegal.

The allegations further poisoned the increasingly toxic atmosphere between Israel and the outgoing Obama administration in the wake of Friday’s vote, and raised questions about whether the White House might take further action against Israeli settlements in its final weeks in office.

With the U.S. expected to participate in an international peace conference in France next month and Secretary of State John Kerry planning a final policy speech, the Palestinians said they were hoping to capitalize on the momentum from the Security Council vote.

Although the U.S. has long opposed Israeli settlements on occupied lands, it has traditionally used its veto in the U.N. Security Council to protect its ally Israel from international censure. But in a change of policy, it abstained from Friday’s vote, allowing the resolution to pass by a 14-0 margin.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has long had a cool relationship with President Barack Obama, has called the resolution “shameful” and accused the U.S. of playing a leading role in its passage.

On Tuesday, his spokesman went even further.


“We’re not just going to be a punching bag and go quietly into the night as the Obama administration helps push such a grave resolution,” he said.

He did not identify the Arab sources or say how Israel obtained the information. Israel has close security ties with Egypt, an original sponsor of last week’s resolution. Under heavy Israeli pressure, Egypt delayed the resolution last week before other council members presented it for a vote a day later. Egypt ended up voting in favor of the measure.

Keyes claim mirrors that of his boss Netanyahu, who told his Cabinet on Sunday:

Netanyahu insists that there is nothing wrong with his controversial policy of building Jewish towns in occupied areas that the Palestinians, with overwhelming world support, claim for their state.

U.S. Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power defended the U.S. abstention, saying, “We would not have let this resolution pass if it hadn’t addressed counterproductive steps by the Palestinians.” And she added that the vote “does not in any way diminish the United States’ steadfast and unparalleled commitment to the security of Israel.”

Power also warned that settlements make it harder to negotiate a separate Palestinian state, which the administration believes is crucial to a lasting peace, CBS News’ Margaret Brennan reports.

“The United States has been sending a message that the settlements must stop, privately and publicly, for nearly five decades,” Power said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-claims-ironclad-proof-obama-administration-behind-un-rebuke/
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FUCK NUTTINBUTTAYAHOO
 
Guille said:
No, it wouldn't.
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you can disagree, but abstaining on a resolution and orchestrating a resolution are way 2 different things.


Guille said:
Yes, it would be a slap in the face. Why do you care how far-reaching the settlements are? They're either right or wrong.
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the further in to the west bank, the more intrusive into "Palestine" making it more difficult to protectwith walls and check points.
Seldom is anything "right or wrong" in geo-politics. I don't give a rats ass either way.
I'm only interested in solutions so we can focus on other things

Guille said:
Ideally but only peers can negotiate. I think the solution to this problem will come from outside that region.
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I don't see any solutions from anywhere
 
blackascoal said:
I don't care about that .. it was simply hypothetical.

However, my question was whether you agree that American Jews would still support Obama.
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Of course you know American Jews would still be supporting Obama.

Again, American Jews do not support Netanwhateverthefuck.
 
Stretch said:
One last slap in the face........

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-28-08-21-21
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hmm.

i didn't know this: (your link)
Next month, France is set to host an international conference where 70 countries, over Israeli objections, hope to endorse an international framework for Mideast peace. Israeli officials fear that the conference's recommendations may then be approved in another U.N. Security Council resolution just before Obama leaves office on Jan. 20.

In a radio interview, Erdan said Kerry's speech was part of a broader effort to hinder the incoming administration of Donald Trump, who has signaled he will have much warmer relations with Israel.
 
anatta said:
you can disagree, but abstaining on a resolution and orchestrating a resolution are way 2 different things.
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Your response has nothing to do with your political suicide comment I disagreed with.

anatta said:
the further in to the west bank, the more intrusive into "Palestine" making it more difficult to protectwith walls and check points.
Seldom is anything "right or wrong" in geo-politics. I don't give a rats ass either way.
I'm only interested in solutions so we can focus on other things
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Actually, things are right or wrong quite a bit.

anatta said:
I don't see any solutions from anywhere
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I do.
 
Israel claims "ironclad" proof that the Obama administration was behind U.N. rebuke

blackascoal said:
I think they feel beholden to Israel.

Their Jewish constituents have been among Obama's strongest supporters.

Had Obama been running against Trump today, who do you think they would support?

American Jews don't support Netan-a-yahoo :0)
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Yes they do, and even Canadian Jews for that matter!

http://m.jpost.com/Diplomatic-Confe...23MzlENTQ0NUYzNDFBNDQ1RjJENzU0QUU1NjNFQkI2REQ

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