Islam hates us?

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And you somehow are an expert on radicalized muslimes? Really?

So we can't say mean things about muslimes? You always seem very concerned about angering the muslimes. I never see you lefties worry about angering other religions. Seems odd doesn't it?

When was the last time a leading Presidential candidate said "Christianity hates us?"

I'll give you some time.

You are so friggin' ignorant on this topic. Such a brain-dead fool.

 

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While you're researching, let me know the last time a Presidential candidate suggested that Christian travel into the U.S. should be restricted.

 

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Where are all of these incidents of muslimes being bullied? committing suicide?

Let's expound on this notion of Trumps words making muslimes susceptible to radicalization. Are you saying that there are regular ole peaceful muslimes minding their own business with no notion of blowing up infidels and then one day they hear Donald Trumps words and say "What did he say? Well fuck that, someone hand me a suicide vest"?

Doesn't your position that adherents of islum are so sensitive and easily swayed by mere words just highlight that maybe there is something wrong with their religion?

I wanted to address this stupidity & ignorance (which seems impossible) as well.

In any religion at all - and it doesn't have to be a religion; it can be any group that has any kind of belief or set of tenets - there are people on the fringe, whether due to poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, marginalization based on being an outsider or perceived as such, or any and all of the above. THOSE people are vulnerable to radicalization, because they're desperate.

It's not some Muslim businessman or housewife who hears what Trump says & decides to jump ship. That's an impossibly stupid interpretation.

 

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When was the last time a leading Presidential candidate said "Christianity hates us?"

I'll give you some time.

You are so friggin' ignorant on this topic. Such a brain-dead fool.

To my knowledge, nobody ever has. But, that is beside the point. Ask yourself this question. Let's say one were to say it would your expectation be that a whole bunch of Christians would strap suicide vests to their bodies in response? I'll give you some time. Your multicultural instincts are clouding your judgement as to the reality that is islum.

Are you going to share with us the 20 things muslimes have in common with you? I will give you some time.

 

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I wanted to address this stupidity & ignorance (which seems impossible) as well.

In any religion at all - and it doesn't have to be a religion; it can be any group that has any kind of belief or set of tenets - there are people on the fringe, whether due to poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, marginalization based on being an outsider or perceived as such, or any and all of the above. THOSE people are vulnerable to radicalization, because they're desperate.

It's not some Muslim businessman or housewife who hears what Trump says & decides to jump ship. That's an impossibly stupid interpretation.

But, according to the multiculturalists, islum is a "religion of peace". When they read the kooran, they are drawn to peace. That seems to be in conflict with what you are saying. You seem to be saying that some adherents of islam are easily tricked because of mean things said by Trump. Surely they can just go to the text of their kooran and it will tell them to practice restraint right?

 

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But, according to the multiculturalists, islum is a "religion of peace". When they read the kooran, they are drawn to peace. That seems to be in conflict with what you are saying. You seem to be saying that some adherents of islam are easily tricked because of mean things said by Trump. Surely they can just go to the text of their kooran and it will tell them to practice restraint right?

Again, the bolded is idiotic. You didn't read my response to you. People on the fringe of ANY group are susceptible.

You're really a stupid, stupid person. Incredibly ignorant, and willfully so.

 

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I wanted to address this stupidity & ignorance (which seems impossible) as well.

In any religion at all - and it doesn't have to be a religion; it can be any group that has any kind of belief or set of tenets - there are people on the fringe, whether due to poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, marginalization based on being an outsider or perceived as such, or any and all of the above. THOSE people are vulnerable to radicalization, because they're desperate.

It's not some Muslim businessman or housewife who hears what Trump says & decides to jump ship. That's an impossibly stupid interpretation.

Did you try actually reading this? Maybe you should give it another go.

It's all true.

 

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Screw this guy. Muslims have fought & died for the American military. There are millions of patriotic American Muslims. There are hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world who have nothing to do with radicalism.

This is such irresponsible, hate-stoking BS - and coming from someone who wants to be our President.

I don't think people realize how extraordinarily important it is that this man not be elected.

american muslims are great... but most of western tenants and beliefs definitely go against the core of islam, and the vast majority of muslims worldwide definitely do not fall into line with our worldview.

 

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american muslims are great... but most of western tenants and beliefs definitely go against the core of islam, and the vast majority of muslims worldwide definitely do not fall into line with our worldview.

You could say that about the vast majority of the world, period.

But the vast majority of the world's Muslims CONDEMN the radicals.

Do you think it helps at all for Trump & others to continue to stoke an "us vs. them" mentality about an entire religion? What end do you think that serves? Do you think it lessens the chance of terrorist attacks or radicalization?

 

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Again, the bolded is idiotic. You didn't read my response to you. People on the fringe of ANY group are susceptible.

time for my classic copypasta...

Here is a pew research poll asking of muslims, among other things, their opinions on stoning for adultery, and their support for killing anyone that happens to leave the faith:

I decided to look at those numbers in greater depth. My focus was specifically on the "death for apostasy" part of the poll, as that is a question that directly ties into a core aspect of their religious belief (whereas stoning might have some more secular beliefs behind it as well..).

I think it's fair to say that if you believe someone should die for leaving your faith, that such a viewpoint is not very tolerant, and is in fact rather dangerous.

First, I took the population of each country as a whole, and then I isolated just the muslim members of each country. After that, I just calculated the raw totals of muslims that answered in the affirmative regarding death for apostasy. Just basic math here, simply multiplying the percentage stated on the poll versus the total population of the countries muslims:

(The population and demographic information come from wikipedia)

Turkey

Population: 74 million (98% muslim)

72.5 million muslims

Number of Muslims believing that someone should die if they leave the faith: 3.6 million

Egypt

**Population:** 90 million (90% identify as muslim)

81 million muslims

Intolerant/Dangerous Beliefs: 68 million

Jordan

Population: 6 million (92% muslim)

5,500000 muslims

Intolerant/Dangerous Beliefs: 4.7 million

Lebanon

Population: 4 million (60% muslim)

2.4 million muslims

Intolerant/Dangerous Beliefs: 144,000 (good job lebanon)

Indonesia

Population: 237,400,000 (86% muslim)

204 million muslims

Intolerant/Dangerous Beliefs: 61 million

Pakistan

Population: 180 million (97%)

174 million muslims

Intolerant/Dangerous Beliefs: 132 million

Nigeria

Population: 170 million (50% muslim)

85 million muslims

Intolerant/Dangerous Beliefs: 42.5 million

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Total Muslims in these Countries: ~624,400,000 (Nearly 40% of ALL muslims in the world btw)

Total Muslims that believe you should be killed for leaving their religion: ~311,944,000 (50% of muslims polled)

Conclusion:

We only looked at 7 countries. We didn't include Syria, many north african muslim countries, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Yemen, and many other countries that no doubt also have very extreme believers in Islam. Even so, without even considering those other nations, we already have a hard number of at least 20% of all muslims world wide, being completely intolerant in their view of religion. They believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith. If we were to look at some of the other countries listed above, this number may even be higher, and probably closer to 30-35%.

While these intolerant/psychotic muslims are a minority, they are a very sizable portion of the muslim faith. They are not "extremists" or a fringe group of paltry numbers.

And of course I'll add the usual asterisk that many other religions may have similar numbers when it comes to having rather violent beliefs and attitudes.

tagging this with a unique word so i can find my copypasta later: islamcopypasta

 

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There is ample information on the internet regarding the contradictions and general unreliability of that Pew study.

I really wonder what the poll results would be in America for carpet-bombing areas of the Middle East without regard to civilian casualties, or something equally as violent against Muslims? I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least 20% support.

 

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Again, the bolded is idiotic. You didn't read my response to you. People on the fringe of ANY group are susceptible.

You're really a stupid, stupid person. Incredibly ignorant, and willfully so.

So you really believe that Trumps words will push them over the edge?

 

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There is ample information on the internet regarding the contradictions and general unreliability of that Pew study.

I really wonder what the poll results would be in America for carpet-bombing areas of the Middle East without regard to civilian casualties, or something equally as violent against Muslims? I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least 20% support.

Tell me 10 things islam has in common with you

 

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So you really believe that Trumps words will push them over the edge?

I believe Trump stokes hate and an "us vs. them" mentality, which further alienates those already on the fringe, and doesn't help anyone or keep us more safe.

 

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Tell me 10 things islam has in common with you

Why? I don't believe in Islam or the majority of most world religions. What does it matter what it has in common w/ me?

Not sure why you keep asking that. It's completely irrelevant.

 

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More than 530 Republican primary voters were polled on their support for bombing Agrabah, the fictional kingdom from Disney’s animated classic, Aladdin.

Public Policy Polling asked the 532 Republicans: “Would you support or oppose bombing Agrabah?” 57% of responders said they were not sure. 30% said they supported bombing it.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/republican-voters-bomb-agrabah-disney-aladdin-donald-trump

 

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ILA, I genuinely feel bad for you on this topic. You sound like someone who WANTS to keep hating, and doesn't want to consider anything that would make you stop hating.

And there are those on the "other side" who feel the same way.

As long as that continues, so will misunderstanding, intolerance and violence. It's sort of a never-ending cycle unless people like you wake up.

 

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ILA, I genuinely feel bad for you on this topic. You sound like someone who WANTS to keep hating, and doesn't want to consider anything that would make you stop hating.

And there are those on the "other side" who feel the same way.

As long as that continues, so will misunderstanding, intolerance and violence. It's sort of a never-ending cycle unless people like you wake up.

Yes I hate islam

It is not a religion. It is a political ideology hell bent on world conquest. That you don't believe it is a threat to us all. In fact you are probably a bigger threat than muslimes. Keep your head in the sand it will be easier for them to cut it off.

 

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It's sort of a never-ending cycle unless people like you wake up.

Or die. It's a good thing that Trump's base is superannuated. I have to wonder how many are reality TV, NASCAR, and/or WWE enthusiasts.

Trump’s supporters are a bit older, less educated and earn less than the average Republican. Slightly over half are women. About half are between 45 and 64 years of age, with another 34 percent over 65 years old and less than 2 percent younger than 30. One half of his voters have a high school education or less, compared to 19 percent with a college or post-graduate degree. Slightly over a third of his supporters earn less than $50,000 per year, while 11 percent earn over $100,000 per year.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/09/who_are_trumps_supporters.html

 

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I wanted to address this stupidity & ignorance (which seems impossible) as well.

In any religion at all - and it doesn't have to be a religion; it can be any group that has any kind of belief or set of tenets - there are people on the fringe, whether due to poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, marginalization based on being an outsider or perceived as such, or any and all of the above. THOSE people are vulnerable to radicalization, because they're desperate.

It's not some Muslim businessman or housewife who hears what Trump says & decides to jump ship. That's an impossibly stupid interpretation.

Oh, I get it now. You're afraid of them.