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MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The Miami Dolphins held a players-only meeting Friday to discuss a possible demonstration against racial inequality during the national anthem in their season opener.

Sunday marks 15 years since the September 11th terror attacks. Families will mourn lost loved ones. Americans across the country will pause to reflect on one of the most horrific days in our history.

But in the NFL, many players say they’re considering using that day to protest.

The Seahawks’ roster has a demonstration planned for the national anthem.

Dolphin players may also have something in the works, but it appears to be on an individual basis.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/09/0...-national-anthem-demonstration-in-911-opener/
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What about all those white NFL viewers and fans who aren't agents of racial inequality? Where would all the high paid black athletes be without the white football fans, paying for tickets, buying the jerseys and keeping the cost of TV advertising near the ceiling?

Tying their anthem protest in with 9/11 is skating on thin ice.
 
The issue of protesting on 9/11 is seperate from white people buying tickets. People of all races died on 9/11, that's not a white thing.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Well maybe I'm missing something. What does 9/11 have to do with racial inequality?
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what does the national anthem have to do with racial inequality?

There are 2lines in the 3rd or 4th stanza that slam runaway slave -but not because they are runaway slaves -
it's because they joined the British.

Kap's reasoning is overly-generalized; but I suppose all he cares about is making some point.
Their are certainly better venues then this though.
 
anatta said:
what does the national anthem have to do with racial inequality?

There are 2lines in the 3rd or 4th stanza that slam runaway slave -but not because they are runaway slaves -
it's because they joined the British.

Kap's reasoning is overly-generalized; but I suppose all he cares about is making some point.
Their are certainly better venues then this though.
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I think he wanted to get people talking about it.

And that's exactly what happened. As far as the relation between the national anthem & racial inequality, he explained that; he didn't want to stand for a country that still has forms of oppression.

I love the reaction to what he did. The debate speaks to a fundamental aspect of who we all are as Americans.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Tying their anthem protest in with 9/11 is skating on thin ice.
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Thin ice? These guys are deep diving. Fuck 'em. Boycott them and anything remotely associated with the NFL. Let's see empty stadiums and unsold commercial network time.

I've boycotted professional sports since I was about 15 years old, since I considered most of the performers (and yes I use that word instead of athletes) to be spoiled brats.
 
Thing1 said:
I think he wanted to get people talking about it.

And that's exactly what happened. As far as the relation between the national anthem & racial inequality, he explained that; he didn't want to stand for a country that still has forms of oppression.

I love the reaction to what he did. The debate speaks to a fundamental aspect of who we all are as Americans.
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sure. what kina worries me is it's hip to trash US values. I mean if all you can see is racism, you are not seeing the egalitarian nature of our society.

I'm concerned because Americans in general have become blasé; to what the Founders established, and what the Civil war, and various amendments
helped to self correct.
Any racism needs to be called out, but some credit should be given to our modern society.

There are problems to be sure, but there is an inherent American Exceptionalism as well ( not the neocon bastardization).

We are not really striving for excellence -we are more concerned with making sure everybody is included.
It' takes a balance of both to bring out the best in us. ( sorry for the soapbox)
 
anatta said:
sure. what kina worries me is it's hip to trash US values. I mean if all you can see is racism, you are not seeing the egalitarian nature of our society.

I'm concerned because Americans in general have become blasé; to what the Founders established, and what the Civil war, and various amendments
helped to self correct.
Any racism needs to be called out, but some credit should be given to our modern society.

There are problems to be sure, but there is an inherent American Exceptionalism as well ( not the neocon bastardization).

We are not really striving for excellence -we are more concerned with making sure everybody is included.
It' takes a balance of both to bring out the best in us. ( sorry for the soapbox)
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I think it's mischaracterizing to say that all some see is racism. I personally think America is an amazing country, but I still see significant racism out there. And that's where I'm sitting - I'm sure many are much closer to it, and certainly many experience it firsthand in a way that I probably have a hard time imagining.

Some think that it's mutually exclusive to think that America needs to improve & still think it's great. America has been great since our inception. But it has ALWAYS needed to improve.
 
Thing1 said:
I think it's mischaracterizing to say that all some see is racism. I personally think America is an amazing country, but I still see significant racism out there. And that's where I'm sitting - I'm sure many are much closer to it, and certainly many experience it firsthand in a way that I probably have a hard time imagining.

Some think that it's mutually exclusive to think that America needs to improve & still think it's great. America has been great since our inception. But it has ALWAYS needed to improve.
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and that's a fine position. what I was saying is don't lose track of how much we've accomplished since the Ratification.
That's often overlooked.
 
Right said:
Thin ice? These guys are deep diving. Fuck 'em. Boycott them and anything remotely associated with the NFL. Let's see empty stadiums and unsold commercial network time.

I've boycotted professional sports since I was about 15 years old, since I considered most of the performers (and yes I use that word instead of athletes) to be spoiled brats.
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I'm sure you are sorely missed.
LOL
 
I like what the coach of the US team in the world cup of hockey did. If anyone sits out the anthem they will sit out the game as well.
 
Thing1 said:
I think he wanted to get people talking about it.

And that's exactly what happened. As far as the relation between the national anthem & racial inequality, he explained that; he didn't want to stand for a country that still has forms of oppression.

I love the reaction to what he did. The debate speaks to a fundamental aspect of who we all are as Americans.
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So it's OK for him to show his "beliefs"; but it was wrong for Tebow to show his.

:facepalm:
 
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