is this statement valid on rigged elections?

http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/01/gop-request-denied/


GOP ballot challenge request denied (UPDATED)
Final update 11:41 am
The Supreme Court on Monday turned down a plea by the national Republican Party to free it from a three-decades-old court order that limits its right to challenge voters’ qualifications.** The Republican National Committee had argued that it has obeyed the order diligently and thus it should be lifted; the Democratic National Committee said that violations continue.* The case was Republican National Committee v. Democratic National Committee (12-373).** The Justices offered no explanation, as usual, for denying review. The order list is here.
 
http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases...tee-v-Republican-National-Committee/10/201975



Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee

Case No. 09-4615 (C.A. 3, Mar. 8, 2012)
In 1982, the Republican National Committee (“RNC”) and the Democratic National Committee (“DNC”) entered into a consent decree (the “Decree” or “Consent Decree”), which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance. The RNC appeals from a judgment of the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey denying, in part, the RNC’s Motion to Vacate or Modify the Consent Decree. Although the District Court declined to vacate the Decree, it did make modifications to the Decree. The RNC argues that the District Court abused its discretion by modifying the Decree as it did and by declining to vacate the Decree. For the following reasons, we will affirm the District Court’s judgment.

I. BACKGROUND


A. 1981 Lawsuit and Consent Decree


During the 1981 New Jersey gubernatorial election, the DNC, the New Jersey Democratic State Committee (“DSC”), Virginia L. Peggins, and Lynette Monroe brought an action against the RNC, the New Jersey Republican State Committee (“RSC”), John A. Kelly, Ronald Kaufman, and Alex Hurtado, alleging that the RNC and RSC targeted minority voters in an effort to intimidate them in violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (“VRA”), 42 U.S.C. §§ 1971, 1973, and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States. The RNC allegedly created a voter challenge list by mailing sample ballots to individuals in precincts with a high percentage of racial or ethnic minority registered voters and, then, including individuals whose postcards were returned as undeliverable on a list of voters to challenge at the polls. The RNC also allegedly enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner.

To settle the lawsuit, the RNC and RSC entered into the Consent Decree at issue here. The RNC and RSC agreed that they would:

n the future, in all states and territories of the United States:

(a) comply with all applicable state and federal laws protecting the rights of duly qualified citizens to vote for the candidate(s) of their choice;

(b) in the event that they produce or place any signs which are part of ballot security activities, cause said signs to disclose that they are authorized or sponsored by the party committees and any other committees participating with the party committees;

(c) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their agents or employees to remove or deface any lawfully printed and placed campaign materials or signs;

(d) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their employees to campaign within restricted polling areas or to interrogate prospective voters as to their qualifications to vote prior to their entry to a polling place;

(e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose;

(f) refrain from having private personnel deputized as law enforcement personnel in connection with ballot security activities.
 
Let me ask you a question, bravs:

If you thought fraud determined the 2000 election, why haven't you spoken up about it until now?

I've been bitching about voter fraud and supporting measures against it for 2 decades...
If you'd care to search just this site as far back as possible and read the posts between just evince and me you'll see that.....

Thanks for you input and that (sic) excellent answer....it just proves beyond a shadow of doubt what an extreme partisan and unthinking asshole you are....

Its possible that just 8 fraudulent votes in each Florida county separated prevented Gore from winning that election....not that I wanted him to win of course. And to set the record stright, I didn't think there was voter fraud in Fla....I'm just pointing out what might/could/or be possible .....there and everywhere in the country....all it would take was a few fraudulent vote here and there
to tip an election one way or the other.....thats why taking measures to prevent it are so important.....
 
then they broke it repeatedly



http://www.nytimes.com/1986/10/25/us/gop-memo-tells-of-black-vote-cut.html


G.O.P. MEMO TELLS OF BLACK VOTE CUT
By MARTIN TOLCHIN, Special to the New York Times
Published: October 25, 1986
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WASHINGTON, Oct. 24— A Federal judge today released a memorandum in which a Republican official said the party's program to pare the voting rolls in the name of ''ballot integrity'' ''could keep the black vote down considerably'' in a Louisiana Senate primary.
The memorandum, prepared by Kris Wolfe, a Middle Western regional director for the Republican National Committee, was sent to Lanny Griffith, the committee's regional director for the South. It was obtained by the Democratic National Committee in a $10 million lawsuit against the Republican committee over the ''ballot integrity'' program.
Republicans contended that the purpose of the program was to prevent voter fraud, and not to lower the number of black voters. They say the reference to a reduction in the black vote referred only to a possible effect of the program in the Louisiana election and not to its goal. Democrats, however, have charged that the purpose was to ''harass, intimidate and improperly challenge'' black voters.
The program involved sending letters this year to registered voters in areas that voted 75 percent or more for Walter F. Mondale for President in 1984. If a letter was returned as undeliverable, the Republicans said, they might challenge the addressee's right to cast a ballot. The program was conducted in Louisiana, Indiana and Missouri. Effect on Black Vote
Ms. Wolfe's memorandum concerned the ''ballot integrity'' project in Louisiana, in a Senate primary race pitting Representative W. Henson Moore, a Republican, against Representative John B. Breaux, a Democrat. The memo was unsealed by Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise in Newark Federal District Court.
''I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls,'' Ms. Wolfe wrote. ''If it's a close race, which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably.''
Mr. Moore has denied that his campaign was involved in the program. But in the memo, Ms. Wolfe mentioned a conversation with a campaign worker for Mr. Moore.
''I have talked to Mary Anne at the Moore headquarters and she Fed Expressed the tapes of the parish on floppy disks'' and on paper to campaign officials, the memo said. In Louisiana a parish corresponds to a county.
Judge Debevoise had sealed all documents in the case, but David Boies, a lawyer for the Democrats, told the judge today that he wanted the document unsealed so that he could refer to it in questioning Ms Wolfe on the witness stand.
Ms. Wolfe testified that the sentences about black voters were a reminder that the program created ''a political situation that somebody in Louisiana might bring up.'' Parties Offer 2 Viewpoints
Frank J. Fahrenkopf Jr., chairman of the Republican National Committee, said in a statement today that Ms. Wolfe's testimony ''shows there has never been, nor is there now, any program at the Republican National Committee designed to intimidate or discourage any voter from exercising his or her right to vote.''
''We have said all along that the purpose of the program was to help election officials make certain that no dead or fictitious persons vote,'' he said.
But Paul G. Kirk Jr., the Democratic national chairman, said: ''The Republican voter intimidation program has been exposed in all its ugly hypocrisy. The internal memorandum the R.N.C. has been attempting to hide reveals that their so-called 'ballot integrity' project was nothing more than a cynical attempt to disenfranchise blacks and other minority voters.''
Bill Greener, deputy chief of staff of the Republican National Committee, referring to the hearing today, said: ''It was made abundantly clear under oath that not a single thing done had the intent or the effect of intimidating a single voter. It was clearly explained that what was meant in that memo was that the black vote tally could be reduced when dead and nonexistent were removed.''
''The Democrats are seeking short-term political gain through misrepresentation of the facts,'' he added.
Mark Braden, counsel to the Republican National Committee, said on the witness stand today that the purpose of the Republican plan in Louisiana was ''to keep 'vacant lots' from voting.'' Program Began in 1960's
He testified that the overall voter integrity program was started in the 1960's. In discussions with regional Republican officials, Mr. Braden said, ''I wanted to be explicitly clear'' that black voters were not the target of the program.
The Republican National Committee agreed Monday to abandon further efforts to carry out the ''ballot integrity'' program, and persuaded the judge to seal the documents in the case.
The Democrats later learned, however, that the Republicans intended to continue the program in Michigan's Sixth Congressional District, which pits Representative Bob Carr, a Democrat, against Jim Dunn, a Republican from whom Mr. Carr won the seat in 1982.
Democrats turned down a Republican offer to stipulate that the party would not use the program in the Carr-Dunn race. Instead, the Democrats sought a court order. But Judge Debevoise accepted the stipulation.
 
http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases...tee-v-Republican-National-Committee/10/201975



Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee

Case No. 09-4615 (C.A. 3, Mar. 8, 2012)
In 1982, the Republican National Committee (“RNC”) and the Democratic National Committee (“DNC”) entered into a consent decree (the “Decree” or “Consent Decree”), which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance. The RNC appeals from a judgment of the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey denying, in part, the RNC’s Motion to Vacate or Modify the Consent Decree. Although the District Court declined to vacate the Decree, it did make modifications to the Decree. The RNC argues that the District Court abused its discretion by modifying the Decree as it did and by declining to vacate the Decree. For the following reasons, we will affirm the District Court’s judgment.

I. BACKGROUND


A. 1981 Lawsuit and Consent Decree


During the 1981 New Jersey gubernatorial election, the DNC, the New Jersey Democratic State Committee (“DSC”), Virginia L. Peggins, and Lynette Monroe brought an action against the RNC, the New Jersey Republican State Committee (“RSC”), John A. Kelly, Ronald Kaufman, and Alex Hurtado, alleging that the RNC and RSC targeted minority voters in an effort to intimidate them in violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (“VRA”), 42 U.S.C. §§ 1971, 1973, and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States. The RNC allegedly created a voter challenge list by mailing sample ballots to individuals in precincts with a high percentage of racial or ethnic minority registered voters and, then, including individuals whose postcards were returned as undeliverable on a list of voters to challenge at the polls. The RNC also allegedly enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner.

To settle the lawsuit, the RNC and RSC entered into the Consent Decree at issue here. The RNC and RSC agreed that they would:

n the future, in all states and territories of the United States:

(a) comply with all applicable state and federal laws protecting the rights of duly qualified citizens to vote for the candidate(s) of their choice;

(b) in the event that they produce or place any signs which are part of ballot security activities, cause said signs to disclose that they are authorized or sponsored by the party committees and any other committees participating with the party committees;

(c) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their agents or employees to remove or deface any lawfully printed and placed campaign materials or signs;

(d) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their employees to campaign within restricted polling areas or to interrogate prospective voters as to their qualifications to vote prior to their entry to a polling place;

(e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose;

(f) refrain from having private personnel deputized as law enforcement personnel in connection with ballot security activities.


this is real
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_New_Hampshire_Senate_election_phone_jamming_scandal


The 2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal involved the use of a telemarketing firm hired by that state's Republican Party (NHGOP) for election tampering. The tampering involved using a call center to jam the phone lines of a get out the vote (GOTV) operation. In the end, 900 calls were made for 45*minutes of disruption to the Democratic-leaning call centers.
During that state's 2002 election for the United States Senate seat being vacated by Republican Bob Smith, the NHGOP hired GOP Marketplace, based in northern Virginia, to jam another phone bank being used by the state Democratic Party and the firefighters' union for efforts to turn out voters on behalf of then-Governor of New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen on Election Day. John E. Sununu, the Republican nominee, won a narrow victory. In addition to criminal prosecutions, disclosures in the case have come from a civil suit filed by the state's Democratic Party against the state's Republican Party (now settled).
Four men have been convicted of, or pleaded guilty to, federal crimes and sentenced to prison for their involvement as of 2008. One conviction has been reversed by an appeals court, a decision prosecutors are appealing. James Tobin, freed on appeal, was later indicted on charges of lying to the FBI during the original investigation.

fact
 
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fact
 
http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/01/gop-request-denied/


GOP ballot challenge request denied (UPDATED)
Final update 11:41 am
The Supreme Court on Monday turned down a plea by the national Republican Party to free it from a three-decades-old court order that limits its right to challenge voters’ qualifications.** The Republican National Committee had argued that it has obeyed the order diligently and thus it should be lifted; the Democratic National Committee said that violations continue.* The case was Republican National Committee v. Democratic National Committee (12-373).** The Justices offered no explanation, as usual, for denying review. The order list is here.

fact
 
then they broke it repeatedly



http://www.nytimes.com/1986/10/25/us/gop-memo-tells-of-black-vote-cut.html


G.O.P. MEMO TELLS OF BLACK VOTE CUT
By MARTIN TOLCHIN, Special to the New York Times
Published: October 25, 1986
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WASHINGTON, Oct. 24— A Federal judge today released a memorandum in which a Republican official said the party's program to pare the voting rolls in the name of ''ballot integrity'' ''could keep the black vote down considerably'' in a Louisiana Senate primary.
The memorandum, prepared by Kris Wolfe, a Middle Western regional director for the Republican National Committee, was sent to Lanny Griffith, the committee's regional director for the South. It was obtained by the Democratic National Committee in a $10 million lawsuit against the Republican committee over the ''ballot integrity'' program.
Republicans contended that the purpose of the program was to prevent voter fraud, and not to lower the number of black voters. They say the reference to a reduction in the black vote referred only to a possible effect of the program in the Louisiana election and not to its goal. Democrats, however, have charged that the purpose was to ''harass, intimidate and improperly challenge'' black voters.
The program involved sending letters this year to registered voters in areas that voted 75 percent or more for Walter F. Mondale for President in 1984. If a letter was returned as undeliverable, the Republicans said, they might challenge the addressee's right to cast a ballot. The program was conducted in Louisiana, Indiana and Missouri. Effect on Black Vote
Ms. Wolfe's memorandum concerned the ''ballot integrity'' project in Louisiana, in a Senate primary race pitting Representative W. Henson Moore, a Republican, against Representative John B. Breaux, a Democrat. The memo was unsealed by Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise in Newark Federal District Court.
''I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls,'' Ms. Wolfe wrote. ''If it's a close race, which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably.''
Mr. Moore has denied that his campaign was involved in the program. But in the memo, Ms. Wolfe mentioned a conversation with a campaign worker for Mr. Moore.
''I have talked to Mary Anne at the Moore headquarters and she Fed Expressed the tapes of the parish on floppy disks'' and on paper to campaign officials, the memo said. In Louisiana a parish corresponds to a county.
Judge Debevoise had sealed all documents in the case, but David Boies, a lawyer for the Democrats, told the judge today that he wanted the document unsealed so that he could refer to it in questioning Ms Wolfe on the witness stand.
Ms. Wolfe testified that the sentences about black voters were a reminder that the program created ''a political situation that somebody in Louisiana might bring up.'' Parties Offer 2 Viewpoints
Frank J. Fahrenkopf Jr., chairman of the Republican National Committee, said in a statement today that Ms. Wolfe's testimony ''shows there has never been, nor is there now, any program at the Republican National Committee designed to intimidate or discourage any voter from exercising his or her right to vote.''
''We have said all along that the purpose of the program was to help election officials make certain that no dead or fictitious persons vote,'' he said.
But Paul G. Kirk Jr., the Democratic national chairman, said: ''The Republican voter intimidation program has been exposed in all its ugly hypocrisy. The internal memorandum the R.N.C. has been attempting to hide reveals that their so-called 'ballot integrity' project was nothing more than a cynical attempt to disenfranchise blacks and other minority voters.''
Bill Greener, deputy chief of staff of the Republican National Committee, referring to the hearing today, said: ''It was made abundantly clear under oath that not a single thing done had the intent or the effect of intimidating a single voter. It was clearly explained that what was meant in that memo was that the black vote tally could be reduced when dead and nonexistent were removed.''
''The Democrats are seeking short-term political gain through misrepresentation of the facts,'' he added.
Mark Braden, counsel to the Republican National Committee, said on the witness stand today that the purpose of the Republican plan in Louisiana was ''to keep 'vacant lots' from voting.'' Program Began in 1960's
He testified that the overall voter integrity program was started in the 1960's. In discussions with regional Republican officials, Mr. Braden said, ''I wanted to be explicitly clear'' that black voters were not the target of the program.
The Republican National Committee agreed Monday to abandon further efforts to carry out the ''ballot integrity'' program, and persuaded the judge to seal the documents in the case.
The Democrats later learned, however, that the Republicans intended to continue the program in Michigan's Sixth Congressional District, which pits Representative Bob Carr, a Democrat, against Jim Dunn, a Republican from whom Mr. Carr won the seat in 1982.
Democrats turned down a Republican offer to stipulate that the party would not use the program in the Carr-Dunn race. Instead, the Democrats sought a court order. But Judge Debevoise accepted the stipulation.

fact
 
A lot of intensive study has been done on this. Elections are not rigged. There is some fraud - what you'd expect in a nation of 300 million. But it is insignificant & does not affect elections.

So, his statement is wrong.

Keep in mind that Obama's rise was a product of him winning a primary for the Illinois senate by exposing the rampant corruption of the incumbent. I'd say that his understanding of Chicago corruption is the reason why he is where he is today.
 
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