is this statement valid on rigged elections?
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Let me guess - you'd like people to say "no," so you can say "gotcha! Obama said it!"
its either a yes or no. do you have an answer? If yes then please explain why this is not valid today. If no please explain why obama is wrong.
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A lot of intensive study has been done on this. Elections are not rigged. There is some fraud - what you'd expect in a nation of 300 million. But it is insignificant & does not affect elections.
So, his statement is wrong.
yet no one called him out on it then?
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I'm sorry - I can't recall. Was he saying "the entire election is rigged" a few dozen times a day, making it the centerpiece of his campaign? And did he refuse to commit to accepting the results of the election TWICE when asked in a crucial debate on national TV?
Maybe you can refresh my memory?
Glad to see you at least acknowledge there is voter fraud....it exists....so lets have a look at election 2000......
So how much voter fraud is acceptable to you ?...Gore lost by 537 votes out of almost 6,000,000.....
8 fraudulent votes per county.....is that what you see as insignificant, that does not affect elections....
Is that acceptable ?.....Do you ever think for yourself or will you forever believe the DNC bullshit ?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South...the_Southern_strategy_.281963.E2.80.931972.29
Nixon's advisers recognized that they could not appeal directly to voters on issues of white supremacy or racism. White House Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman noted that Nixon "emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognized this while not appearing to."[43] With the aid of Harry Dent and South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, who had switched to the Republican Party in 1964, Richard Nixon ran his 1968 campaign on states' rights and "law and order." Liberal Northern Democrats accused Nixon of pandering to Southern whites, especially with regard to his "states' rights" and "law and order" positions, which were widely understood by black leaders to symbolize southern resistance to civil rights.[44] This tactic was described in 2007 by David Greenberg in Slate as "dog-whistle politics."[45] According to an article in The American Conservative, Nixon adviser and speechwriter Pat Buchanan disputed this characterization.[46]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley
Richard Joseph Daley (May 15, 1902 – December 20, 1976) was an American politician who served as the Mayor of Chicago for a total of 21 years (1955–1976) and chairman of the Cook County Democratic Central Committee for 23 years, holding both positions until his death in office in 1976.
Daley was Chicago's third consecutive mayor from the working-class, heavily Irish American Bridgeport neighborhood on Chicago's South Side, where he lived his entire life. Daley is remembered for doing much to avoid the declines that some other "rust belt" cities like Cleveland, Buffalo and Detroit experienced during the same period. He had a strong base of support in Chicago's Irish Catholic community, and he was treated by national politicians such as Lyndon B. Johnson as a pre-eminent Irish American, with special connections to the Kennedy family.
Daley played a major role in the history of the Democratic Party, especially with his support of John F. Kennedy in 1960 and of Hubert Humphrey in 1968. Daley is the father of Richard M. Daley, also a former mayor of Chicago, William M. Daley, a former United States Secretary of Commerce, and John P. Daley, a member of the Cook County Board of Commissioners. While many members of Daley's administration were charged with corruption and convicted, Daley was never charged with corruption.
Nixon's advisers recognized that they could not appeal directly to voters on issues of white supremacy or racism. White House Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman noted that Nixon "emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognized this while not appearing to."[43] With the aid of Harry Dent and South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, who had switched to the Republican Party in 1964, Richard Nixon ran his 1968 campaign on states' rights and "law and order." Liberal Northern Democrats accused Nixon of pandering to Southern whites, especially with regard to his "states' rights" and "law and order" positions, which were widely understood by black leaders to symbolize southern resistance to civil rights.[44] This tactic was described in 2007 by David Greenberg in Slate as "dog-whistle politics."[45] According to an article in The American Conservative, Nixon adviser and speechwriter Pat Buchanan disputed this characterization.[46]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley
Richard Joseph Daley (May 15, 1902 – December 20, 1976) was an American politician who served as the Mayor of Chicago for a total of 21 years (1955–1976) and chairman of the Cook County Democratic Central Committee for 23 years, holding both positions until his death in office in 1976.
Daley was Chicago's third consecutive mayor from the working-class, heavily Irish American Bridgeport neighborhood on Chicago's South Side, where he lived his entire life. Daley is remembered for doing much to avoid the declines that some other "rust belt" cities like Cleveland, Buffalo and Detroit experienced during the same period. He had a strong base of support in Chicago's Irish Catholic community, and he was treated by national politicians such as Lyndon B. Johnson as a pre-eminent Irish American, with special connections to the Kennedy family.
Daley played a major role in the history of the Democratic Party, especially with his support of John F. Kennedy in 1960 and of Hubert Humphrey in 1968. Daley is the father of Richard M. Daley, also a former mayor of Chicago, William M. Daley, a former United States Secretary of Commerce, and John P. Daley, a member of the Cook County Board of Commissioners. While many members of Daley's administration were charged with corruption and convicted, Daley was never charged with corruption.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_M._Daley
According to journalist Rick Perlstein, in June, 1972, Daley led a mob on behalf of his father's Democratic Party regulars against pro-McGovern reformers meeting in a church in Illinois' Fifth Congressional District. The action was unsuccessful and the reformers' slate (which included Rev. Jesse Jackson) replaced the Daley slate at the Democratic National Convention in Miami Beach, Florida.[15]
According to journalist Rick Perlstein, in June, 1972, Daley led a mob on behalf of his father's Democratic Party regulars against pro-McGovern reformers meeting in a church in Illinois' Fifth Congressional District. The action was unsuccessful and the reformers' slate (which included Rev. Jesse Jackson) replaced the Daley slate at the Democratic National Convention in Miami Beach, Florida.[15]
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I just answered you. Your hackery is so shameless.
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To flesh it out a bit - it's a nation of 300 million. It's ridiculous to expect that there won't be some fraud.
But it is negligible. It is completely insignificant compared to the overall #'s. The 2000 election was essentially a tie; it happens.
Trump is way off the ranch on this one. Just completely irrational.
But it is negligible. It is completely insignificant compared to the overall #'s. The 2000 election was essentially a tie; it happens.
Trump is way off the ranch on this one. Just completely irrational.
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Let me ask you a question, bravs:
If you thought fraud determined the 2000 election, why haven't you spoken up about it until now?
If you thought fraud determined the 2000 election, why haven't you spoken up about it until now?
Leonthecat
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31 documented cases of voter fraud in over one billion votes cast.
Do the math to find the the percentage, and then tell me how bad that is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/
Do the math to find the the percentage, and then tell me how bad that is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_New_Hampshire_Senate_election_phone_jamming_scandal
The 2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal involved the use of a telemarketing firm hired by that state's Republican Party (NHGOP) for election tampering. The tampering involved using a call center to jam the phone lines of a get out the vote (GOTV) operation. In the end, 900 calls were made for 45*minutes of disruption to the Democratic-leaning call centers.
During that state's 2002 election for the United States Senate seat being vacated by Republican Bob Smith, the NHGOP hired GOP Marketplace, based in northern Virginia, to jam another phone bank being used by the state Democratic Party and the firefighters' union for efforts to turn out voters on behalf of then-Governor of New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen on Election Day. John E. Sununu, the Republican nominee, won a narrow victory. In addition to criminal prosecutions, disclosures in the case have come from a civil suit filed by the state's Democratic Party against the state's Republican Party (now settled).
Four men have been convicted of, or pleaded guilty to, federal crimes and sentenced to prison for their involvement as of 2008. One conviction has been reversed by an appeals court, a decision prosecutors are appealing. James Tobin, freed on appeal, was later indicted on charges of lying to the FBI during the original investigation.
The 2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal involved the use of a telemarketing firm hired by that state's Republican Party (NHGOP) for election tampering. The tampering involved using a call center to jam the phone lines of a get out the vote (GOTV) operation. In the end, 900 calls were made for 45*minutes of disruption to the Democratic-leaning call centers.
During that state's 2002 election for the United States Senate seat being vacated by Republican Bob Smith, the NHGOP hired GOP Marketplace, based in northern Virginia, to jam another phone bank being used by the state Democratic Party and the firefighters' union for efforts to turn out voters on behalf of then-Governor of New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen on Election Day. John E. Sununu, the Republican nominee, won a narrow victory. In addition to criminal prosecutions, disclosures in the case have come from a civil suit filed by the state's Democratic Party against the state's Republican Party (now settled).
Four men have been convicted of, or pleaded guilty to, federal crimes and sentenced to prison for their involvement as of 2008. One conviction has been reversed by an appeals court, a decision prosecutors are appealing. James Tobin, freed on appeal, was later indicted on charges of lying to the FBI during the original investigation.
Because every one knows it happens. It every race everywhere ? No.
Has it made a difference ? Occasionally where big money us involved.
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