Haven't you said that those real problems were eliminated with the Civil Rights legislation of the '60's?
Is "The Messiah" a racial slur?
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Haven't you said that those real problems were eliminated with the Civil Rights legislation of the '60's?
zappasguitar
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The only people I EVER see using the term "Messiah" with regards to President Obama are the same half dozen hate-filled losers who hang out here on the JPP boards and who shamelessly resort to derision and belittlement to try and make others as angry as they are.
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WinterBorn
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That is a bit of a stretch there, Mott. You are claiming that any description of Obama that was not used to describe white leaders is, by definition, racism? That is nonsense.
They called Clinton "Slick Willie". If Clinton had been black, and no one had ever called a white leader "Slick Willie", it would be racist??? WTF?
In my opinion, most of the claims of racism are as valid as the previous administration's claims of people being anti-american or unpatriotic.
One side tries to find a catch phrase that people will not fight. Patriotism is a good one. Racism is another one. If you are accused of being unpatriotic or racist, you will have to defend that charge instead of continuing to argue the original point.
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WinterBorn
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I am not goingto actually agree with Dixie, but there is something to part of what he said.
The more often that we cry racism when its not, the less reaction we get when actual racism needs to be addressed.
I do not see this "Messiah" nonsense as being racist. I do see it as a slur on Obama, but not on his race.
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The Almighty
except it isn't about 'hating' Obama... that is simply the way you wish to paint those who mock the mindless drones who chanted so often for Obama... and yes, we can!
He was treated more in lines with a Rock Star than a politician. That is why he was and is mocked as their messiah. They worshiped the ground he walked on.
Even Reagan and Clinton did not have that effect on those who supported them.
Gotta disagree on that last line. Reagan is almost a mythological figure at this point in the GOP - like a founding father or something. Clinton was arguably the 1st real "rock star" Prez since Kennedy, and had similar #'s who were gaga over him.
For that matter, the most recent Bush was certainly treated as a rock star by the faithful; they abandoned him in droves after his re-election (though there are still pockets of real hero worship), but for awhile, the way people spoke about him made me think they must have been talking about someone else...
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No Onzies, that's not what I have said at all. When we passed the CRA of 1964, it ended an era of systemic institutionalized discrimination, which I believe, was racist in nature. That's what I have said, and that is the truth. But as usual, you completely distort and misconstrue what I said, because you are a dishonest little punk who can't tell the truth about anything.
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The Almighty
Actually, I see it as more of a slur against those who follow him than on Obama himself. It is mocking THEIR actions, not those of Obama.
I think the same occurs with Rock stars, movie stars etc... you have idiots that fawn all over them and treat them like Gods... at least that is the impression I get from his devotees.
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WinterBorn
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Ok, there is no arguing with that. But the question is whether or not it is racism.
Hating Obama is not racist. Hating Obama because he is black is racist.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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You should probably try getting away from the computer from time to time.
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The Almighty
Perhaps, but that myth was more posthumously than while he was President.
As for Clinton... I still think that is a stretch. People certainly liked him and maybe even loved him to a degree, but they didn't hold him up like the be all end all that Obama's lemmings have shown.
Stop listening to Rush and Hannity and you won't have to worry about running into the three people that worship Bush.
The only reason it really started was because of Oprah and her flair for the dramatic. People say Farrakhan as well, but it was Oprah; not many people listen to Farrakhan.
It became a "Barack Hussein Obama" thing - something haters could use against supporters when all else failed.
It became a "Barack Hussein Obama" thing - something haters could use against supporters when all else failed.
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WinterBorn
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You never go full retard
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WinterBorn
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No, I'd say it's your garden-variety rightwing psychological projection. Didn't republicans defend or provide cover for George bush for seven and a half years, until it became apparent he was a political liability for the party? And isn't there some well documented facts that the GOP congress voted for everything bush wanted like 98% of the time through two terms?
What I'm more interested in is a credible and plausible explanation of the republican position on this BP clusterfuck. It's all over the map. Over the past two months the well blowout has gone from not being a huge deal (natural oil seepage is just as bad), to saying its "Obama's Katrina", an epic and historic disaster. Actually, I think some GOPer has now elevated it to "Obama's Chernobyl". Another fascinating conundrum is how on one hand, Obama didn't do anything to get BP to concede 20 billion bucks, to on the other hand saying that it was a chicago-style thuggish shakedown of BP.
You know I had the distinct impression that as much as liberals harshed on Bush on Katrina, they actually wanted those people on the rooftops to be saved. The constant goal post shifting, and flailing all over the map by the GOP seems to indicate they simply view this disaster in terms of how much political damage they can do to Obama. But, I'd hate to think anyone was that immoral. It might take a team of university psychologists to study and explain why the GOP is all over the map and constantly shifting goals posts on this.