Is rumpf simply wagging the dog??

[blackascoal]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers it......and it would be racist because its a claim all members of a race share a single characteristic.....obviously it would be wrong.....what racist statement isn't?......

WHAT?

A great many whites believe themselves to be superior. Does that mean that all whites think like that?

Is white supremacy a characteristic or a belief?

I don't give a damn what you think you disremember, I've never said it .. and even if I had, it wouldn't be racist, it would be wrong.

Reach harder.

 

[Cadillac Man]

If so, it worked perfectly..........

Given Russia's lackluster response to the attack and seeing as how Trump gave the Russians a head's up...

did I say head's up?

Didn't he say this just the day before?

http://usaradio.com/2017/04/05/trump-wont-telegraph-military-moves/

Instead of the press or others, he'll just announce future attacks on bases where his comrades have equipment and aircraft in advance to them so they can get everything out of the way, but give a good photo op afterwards of torn up concrete.

 

[anatta]

& maybe he got wagged...lol

Suddenly the Christian leader calls on God, & goodness etc etc etc cause he just found assad is a bad guy. If he is that naive he shouldn't be the leader of the free world, if he is/was that ignorant, he shouldn't be the leader of the free world......

Murder, rape in the Congo?? Nary a peep, oh those poor children there, those poor women there=BULL SHIT, he cares not for anyone but himself & his family-fourth rate actor acting poorly, hell he sounded like he was on drugs mouthing that bull shit..

& the suckers & media ate it up & all is right in the world, forget about the hacking, the trump collusion etc etc-poor actor & but a great script............

when is the last time you've seen any sub-Saharan African coverage? Is there murder/rape in the Congo? i vaguely recall hearing something about that -but i couldn't confirm that or give you any details.

Sinai Province terrorists ? That's Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood) -and damn near nobody knows that too.
Egypt is much more pertinent to the west then the Congo.

But Syria gets coverage, and Syria was in the news,and Syria was an Obama decision as well as it being discussed in the UN.
Trump is not alone in forgetting the hot spots..but the fact Sarin was just used IS the new variable.

Logically that caused Trump's attention/decision -Much the same conditions for Obama's indecision back in2014

 

[blackascoal]

obviously you're new......he's as racist as any white supremacist who posts here.......just bipolarly oriented.....

Yet in my 10 years of posting here, all you could come up with is something that isn't racist and that I never said.

What a dummy you are.

Do you think anyone would have a hard time identifying the racist shit that your white supremacist buddies have said.

What a dummy you are .. which is why your stupid shit gets ignored by posters.

 

[Element-22-Cat]

OMG....SARIN GAS changed the equation not any "wagging"

Sarin gas was used by Assad in 2013. That attack was worse. And barrel bombs shredding innocent civilians with shrapnel ain't any better. No equation changed.

 

[anatta]

Given Russia's lackluster response to the attack and seeing as how Trump gave the Russians a head's up...

did I say head's up?

Didn't he say this just the day before?

http://usaradio.com/2017/04/05/trump-wont-telegraph-military-moves/

Instead of the press or others, he'll just announce future attacks on bases where his comrades have equipment and aircraft in advance to them so they can get everything out of the way, but give a good photo op afterwards of torn up concrete.

Putin (Russia) wasn't notified - but the Russians in Syria were - they used a hotline.
Obviously that was a needed heads up? agreed?

a "lackluster response" -what do you prefer -how about some ginning up of the Cold War 2.0 in Europe?

Oh wait! we JUST DID THAT! 3 days ago when some general was saying we need to be prepared for medium ranged nuclear tipped land cruise missiles from Russia -and just like that Sen Tom Cotton is on it
IT'S TIME TO ACT!!!


Sen. Tom Cotton- Russia has subverted our treaty on cruise missiles for years. It’s time to act.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a5314b56a08_story.html?utm_term=.cf789eef60bd

......From Vladimir Putin’s perspective, the treaty is a one-sided deal. Since only the United States and Russia are parties to the treaty, Russia’s neighbors may develop intermediate-range forces. For that reason, the Kremlin sees itself as surrounded by hostile countries. Moreover, land-based cruise missiles simply don’t pose the same threat to the United States — guarded as it is by two oceans.
In other words, the Russians have calculated that it costs them more to fulfill their treaty commitments than to break them. The only proper response to this provocation is to increase the costs and change Russia’s calculation....
++
So what else should 'the Russians' be doing?

 

[blackascoal]

Sarin gas was used by Assad in 2013. That attack was worse. And barrel bombs shredding innocent civilians with shrapnel ain't any better. No equation changed.

Absolutely

After the 2013 Syrian gas attack ..

@realDonaldTrump
AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!
6:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013

@realDonaldTrump
President Obama, do not attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Save your "powder" for another (and more important) day!
9:21 AM - 7 Sep 2013

 

[PostmodernProphet]

No. I have known BAC for quite a while from another board. Disagreeing strongly with something is not racism. You know that.

he posts here...has for years...I have read his posts......I know he is a racist.....I don't care if you want to ignore it, it doesn't change what he is.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Yet in my 10 years of posting here, all you could come up with is something that isn't racist and that I never said.

What a dummy you are.

Do you think anyone would have a hard time identifying the racist shit that your white supremacist buddies have said.

What a dummy you are .. which is why your stupid shit gets ignored by posters.

can you name a white supremacist who is my buddy?......I expect I would have to know their real name to be a "buddy" and I don't know the real name of any one here......and is there anyone here who DOESN'T think you're a racist except people who weren't here to read your posts?......

 

[anatta]

Sarin gas was used by Assad in 2013. That attack was worse. And barrel bombs shredding innocent civilians with shrapnel ain't any better. No equation changed.

since Trump came into Office,T-Cat. the discussion is "the waged the dog" .
Sarin was the game changer for Trump

 

[Element-22-Cat]

since Trump came into Office,T-Cat. the discussion is "the waged the dog" .
Sarin was the game changer for Trump

No excuse. He didn't give a shit about Assad using sarin gas before, said there was no upside and a huge downside. He's had plenty of time to study everything that happened and he didn't give a shit that Assad has "crossed the line" many times and killed many innocent civilians and in horrible ways. He specifically took Assad off the bad boy list and then what happens? STUPID!

 

[Sailor]

he posts here...has for years...I have read his posts......I know he is a racist.....I don't care if you want to ignore it, it doesn't change what he is.....

Any that knows me, knows pretty well I do not tolerate racism at all. From anyone. We can disagree on this Prophet. And move on.

 

[anatta]

No excuse. He didn't give a shit about Assad using sarin gas before, said there was no upside and a huge downside. He's had plenty of time to study everything that happened and he didn't give a shit that Assad has "crossed the line" many times and killed many innocent civilians and in horrible ways. He specifically took Assad off the bad boy list and then what happens? STUPID!

I do not get your point.
Barrel bombs have been around since the beginning of the war - should he have come into power and immediately Tomahawked Assad?

He didn't take him off the "bad boy list" he removed Assad from the automatic regime change list.
I think he was trying to accommodate Russia in any future peace talks- but the change in advisors
(McMaster as NSC chair) and demoting Bannon really changed policy

 

[Cadillac Man]

Putin (Russia) wasn't notified - but the Russians in Syria were - they used a hotline.
Obviously that was a needed heads up? agreed?

Are you saying Putin didn't know? I suspect Putin knows everything.

a "lackluster response" -what do you prefer -how about some ginning up of the Cold War 2.0 in Europe?

Oh wait! we JUST DID THAT! 3 days ago when some general was saying we need to be prepared for medium ranged nuclear tipped land cruise missiles from Russia -and just like that Sen Tom Cotton is on it
IT'S TIME TO ACT!!!


Sen. Tom Cotton- Russia has subverted our treaty on cruise missiles for years. It’s time to act.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a5314b56a08_story.html?utm_term=.cf789eef60bd

......From Vladimir Putin’s perspective, the treaty is a one-sided deal. Since only the United States and Russia are parties to the treaty, Russia’s neighbors may develop intermediate-range forces. For that reason, the Kremlin sees itself as surrounded by hostile countries. Moreover, land-based cruise missiles simply don’t pose the same threat to the United States — guarded as it is by two oceans.
In other words, the Russians have calculated that it costs them more to fulfill their treaty commitments than to break them. The only proper response to this provocation is to increase the costs and change Russia’s calculation....
++
So what else should 'the Russians' be doing?

Cotton's a hawk. The Russians only need to adhere to the treaty.

 

[blackascoal]

can you name a white supremacist who is my buddy?......I expect I would have to know their real name to be a "buddy" and I don't know the real name of any one here......and is there anyone here who DOESN'T think you're a racist except people who weren't here to read your posts?......

What the fuck are you waiting on?

POST MY RACIST COMMENTS .. or IS IT BECAUSE I'M BLACK THAT YOU THINK I'M INHERENTLY RACIST?

I wouldn't even call you a racist .. you're just really dumb.

 

[anatta]

Are you saying Putin didn't know? I suspect Putin knows everything.

I'm saying the WH did not call him

Cotton's a hawk. The Russians only need to adhere to the treaty.

the treaty puts them at a disadvantage.
More importantly the escalation of Cold War 2.0 combined with NATO expansion leaves them looking for options.

At one time Trump was talking rapproachment -but the political situation here -combined with the bloodthirsty warhawks like McCain driving the agenda as Dem's go along for the ride- insures more and more weapons systems that are already redundant being hyped up

 

[Element-22-Cat]

I do not get your point.
Barrel bombs have been around since the beginning of the war - should he have come into power and immediately Tomahawked Assad?

No, he should have changed his position on Assad if he is so horrified by civilian deaths. He shouldn't be going around saying it would be a very bad thing to attack Syria with no upside and a big downside.

He didn't take him off the "bad boy list" he removed Assad from the automatic regime change list.
I think he was trying to accommodate Russia in any future peace talks- but the change in advisors
(McMaster as NSC chair) and demoting Bannon really changed policy

You know what I meant, when you make statements that Assad remaining in power is up to the Syrians, you are saying that you don't really care about him, he ain't bad enough to matter. And maybe accommodating the country that was protecting a guy who had used chemical weapons against civilians and other war crimes isn't a particularly good idea.

 

[anatta]

No, he should have changed his position on Assad if he is so horrified by civilian deaths. He shouldn't be going around saying it would be a very bad thing to attack Syria with no upside and a big downside.

ah..you mean the Tweets from befoer he was POTUS? perhaps -perhaps getting a look from inside has made him more hawkish. It happens to most presidents

You know what I meant, when you make statements that Assad remaining in power is up to the Syrians, you are saying that you don't really care about him, he ain't bad enough to matter.

no.you are saying as bad as Assad is there aren't any realistic alternatives that aren't as bad or worse.

 

[Cadillac Man]

I'm saying the WH did not call him

the treaty puts them at a disadvantage.
More importantly the escalation of Cold War 2.0 combined with NATO expansion leaves them looking for options.

At one time Trump was talking rapproachment -but the political situation here -combined with the bloodthirsty warhawks like McCain driving the agenda as Dem's go along for the ride- insures more and more weapons systems that are already redundant being hyped up

You're speculating. You know nothing. Given my place of employment, I know more than you.

And remember, Russia agreed to the agreement. They can always try to renegotiate it, but didn't the first one require them to get rid of all their chemical weapons?

Yes.
And they still have them, a violation of the treaty they signed.

 

[Bill]

since Trump came into Office,T-Cat. the discussion is "the waged the dog" .
Sarin was the game changer for Trump

So he says & you belive him, mostly because you wanna........ I think the game changer was getting the media off his back about Russia, the shitty job thus far & the investigations & it worked perfectly...........

I don't believe he suddenly gained a conscience, not one bit.......