Is President Apologist Still Kissing Commie Ass In Havana?

*meh* as was pointed out the US does business with lots of unsavory characters.

The press conference with Raul was hilarious!
"Political prisoners?? What political prisoners?? we got no stinkin' political prisoners -tell me who they are??"

Of course human rights orgs. quickly Tweeted out the various known names :rolleyes:

So..Cuba is what it is -a small poor country where the buildings in Havana routinely come crashing down.
And in truth there isn't much to gain by the US -Cuba gets all the benefits of normalization without political reform..

But realignment was needed , the embargo helps no one
 
*meh* as was pointed out the US does business with lots of unsavory characters.

The press conference with Raul was hilarious!
"Political prisoners?? What political prisoners?? we got no stinkin' political prisoners -tell me who they are??"

Of course human rights orgs. quickly Tweeted out the various known names :rolleyes:

So..Cuba is what it is -a small poor country where the buildings in Havana routinely come crashing down.
And in truth there isn't much to gain by the US -Cuba gets all the benefits of normalization without political reform..

But realignment was needed , the embargo helps no one

Political reform? Back to what it was an American brothel?
 
*meh* as was pointed out the US does business with lots of unsavory characters.

The press conference with Raul was hilarious!
"Political prisoners?? What political prisoners?? we got no stinkin' political prisoners -tell me who they are??"

Of course human rights orgs. quickly Tweeted out the various known names :rolleyes:

So..Cuba is what it is -a small poor country where the buildings in Havana routinely come crashing down.
And in truth there isn't much to gain by the US -Cuba gets all the benefits of normalization without political reform..

But realignment was needed , the embargo helps no one

It will soon change when obnoxious and demanding US tourists go there wanting iced water and cuba libres!!
 
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Political reform? Back to what it was an American brothel?
going from one dictatorship to another -or one oligarchy to another isn't progress..

I read someplace "Cuba is a poor nation with equal poverty spread among the population."
No doubt the embargo has hurt it; but Cuban doctors/medicine are among the best.

Still I'm not gonna sit by while Raul professes ignorance of political prisoners either.

Get real and Move on.
 
It will soon change when obnoxious and demanding US tourists go there wanting iced water cuba libres!!
It's not on my list -but I live in Florida - I got plenty of beautiful beaches and heat ..lol

But yeah. Time for some good old Yankee capitalism...
 
It's not on my list -but I live in Florida - I got plenty of beautiful beaches and heat ..lol

But yeah. Time for some good old Yankee capitalism...

Yes and how long before Cuba is inundated with crack, crystal meth and cocaine? The Miami Mafia are salivating at the prospect.
 
going from one dictatorship to another -or one oligarchy to another isn't progress..

I read someplace "Cuba is a poor nation with equal poverty spread among the population."
No doubt the embargo has hurt it; but Cuban doctors/medicine are among the best.

Still I'm not gonna sit by while Raul professes ignorance of political prisoners either.

Get real and Move on.

Well, they have a better health service than the US, for a start. Why do you have so many 'black' prisoners amongst your vast numbers if you don't have political prisoners?
 
Well, they have a better health service than the US, for a start. Why do you have so many 'black' prisoners amongst your vast numbers if you don't have political prisoners?
the disproportionality goes mostly to "tough on crime laws" - I've mentioned they have more access -better medicine is a difficult term to quantify.
They don't have the high-tech medicine, but they do indeed have very dedicated doctors.

Blacks are not "political prisoners" critical of the regime, as in Cuba. US has too many non-violent prisoners in general.
 
Luckily there are an island otherwise they would be totally fucked.
They'll be another stepping stone for smuggling cocaine and Columbian heroin.
Soon they can be corrupted like other western nations..Ain't capitalism grand?

Of course the true problem are the drug laws that allow narco-cartels.
But we can't politically say that. So the beat goes on...
 
What is extremely funny but scarcely known is that he was ingloriously wounded by his own hand whilst brandishing a pistol in an attempt to rally his men, he accidentally shot himself through the chin and could have died. The Motorcycle Diaries was a hagiography not a documentary., the real Che could be a nasty vicious bastard and truly sadistic as well. Che was, signing the death warrants on 1892 men, women, pregnant women, and boys. When Che killed his first man, he wrote a letter home to his father saying how much he loved killing people.

A distraught mother came to La Cabana prison where Che set up his murder shop and begged for her teenaged son’s life. He heard her out, picked up the phone, ordered her boy shot THAT NIGHT, and slammed the phone down. He played this sadistic game on several mothers. He was a little man who thought he could become big by crushing others. When crowds of mothers and wives, sisters and daughters came to La Cabana to see their doomed loved ones, Che set his guards on them with clubs.

The government figures in the Batista regime who were killed got what they deserved. I celebrate their deaths and would've enjoyed killing them to. How I envy Che.
 
Did you say something similar when Nixon went to China?
Oh come on now, Nixons visit to China was due to a need to apply pressure to the Soviet Union, so that they might help apply pressure to the North Vietnamese with the specific goal of them signing a peace treaty to bring an end to the Vietnam Conflict.

Obamas visit accomplished no diplomatic need. He's simply playing pals with his youthful heroes. Posing in front of Che Gruveras image was a total disrespect to those who fled with their lives from that butcher.. Too many others were not so fortunate.
 
The government figures in the Batista regime who were killed got what they deserved. I celebrate their deaths and would've enjoyed killing them to. How I envy Che.

Some of those people were pregnant women and boys, I hope you are trolling but I suspect not. Maybe we now know why you can't get a job!

Che Guevara was a racist, who felt that blacks were useless and lazy, and a sadistic monster who killed for pleasure, a fact even recognised by Huff Post. That there are fools that still idolise him speaks to their woeful knowledge of the world and ability to filter out information that doesn't chime with their world view.

There’s something about Che Guevara that convinces older European men that they will become cooler through association with his “brand.” We saw that again yesterday when Mercedes-Benz Chairman Dieter Zetsche launched a new car under a banner picture of Guevara. Years ago, an equally desperate Anglican clergyman tried to stem dwindling congregations with a poster of Guevara wearing a crown of thorns. The hip slogan? “Meek and Mild? As if.”

The Anglican Church continues to, ahem, have its problems attracting people to an increasingly troubled denomination. As to whether communism will help a luxury car maker sell a lavish lifestyle, well, let’s say I remain agnostic. But the occasion to comment on the appropriateness of using Che Guevara to market anything cannot be passed up.

Che Guevara, not to put too fine a point on it, was a psychopath whose sadistic lust for blood was not easily quenched. He killed for pleasure.
He had, moreover, little time for youthful rebellion and none at all for individualism. Lastly, Che Guevara was a racist who specifically held blacks in contempt. I think about this often when I see deluded young African-Americans wearing a t-shirt with his likeness. But a German born a handful of years after 1945 really ought to have known better.

Much has been written about how Guevara executed men and boys in prison in the early revolutionary years in Cuba, disposing of such bourgeois niceties as trials. This little snippet from a 1966 speech by Guevara ought to have given Zetsche some pause:
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Hatred is the central element of our struggle! Hatred that is intransigent...hatred so violent that it propels a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him violent and cold- blooded killing machine...We reject any peaceful approach. Violence is inevitable. To establish Socialism rivers of blood must flow! The imperialist enemy must feel like a hunted animal wherever he moves. Thus we’ll destroy him! These hyenas are fit only for extermination. We must keep our hatred alive and fan it to paroxysm! The victory of Socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims!
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But rebellion was something only reserved for Guevara and others in government. In an earlier speech spurning “the spirit of rebellion”, in 1961, he made clear that government was in charge. “Youth must refrain from ungrateful questioning of governmental mandates,” he said. As for Guevara’s views on race, he did not mince words. After the Revolution’s victory in 1959, he famously said, “We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing.”
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And no, it wasn’t just hard feelings over how Cuban blacks had supported the biracial dictator Fulgencio Batista. With Guevara it was more of a conviction, as we can glean from another quote. Speaking of blacks he said: “The nigger is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.”

Yes, quite a model that Che Guevara. You’d buy a car from him, wouldn’t you? What will Mercedes-Benz come up with next? The Baader-Mienhof super coupe?

Update: To Mercedes-Benz’s credit, it apologized 48 hours after the event. A statement said, in part,
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“Daimler was not condoning the life or actions of this historical figure or the political philosophy he espoused. We sincerely apologize to those who took offense.” A spokesman also said, “It was very thoughtless not to realize that by doing that, it would offend a large number of people,” adding of the PR person who thought up the use of Che Guevara’s image: “It was absolutely stupid that somebody did it.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-gonzalez/el-che-the-crass-marketin_b_1199252.html
 
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the disproportionality goes mostly to "tough on crime laws" - I've mentioned they have more access -better medicine is a difficult term to quantify.
They don't have the high-tech medicine, but they do indeed have very dedicated doctors.

Blacks are not "political prisoners" critical of the regime, as in Cuba. US has too many non-violent prisoners in general.

If they are not political prisoners why are they in prison for doing what ;whites; do with impunity?
 
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