Is it too early to already declare the worst thing of the year?

[NiftyNiblick]

Castro promised democracy and delivered socialism.
Lenin promised democracy, and when his party lost the elections, he delivered socialism.
North Korea skipped the elections, and went with hereditary socialism.

First of all, democracy and socialism are NOT opposites.

Socialism and capitalism are economic systems [and they usually run in parallel anyway]. They're not systems of government.
Democracy and various genres of authoritarianism are systems of government, not economic systems.

When you contrast socialism and democracy, you're contrasting apples and oranges.
Why do so many populist conservatives do this? Is it an education thing?

 

[Bigdog]

First of all, democracy and socialism are NOT opposites.

Socialism and capitalism are economic systems [and they usually run in parallel anyway]. They're not systems of government.
Democracy and various genres of authoritarianism are systems of government, not economic systems.

When you contrast socialism and democracy, you're contrasting apples and oranges.
Why do so many populist conservatives do this? Is it an education thing?

Because socialism means the gov't owns the means of production, and capitalism is based on PRIVATE property rights. So they are forms of gov't that go far beyond just economics.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I don't understand why I see so many posts with absolutely no text.

How is everybody else seeing it?

Is it because they're on phones instead of laptops?

The government is censoring you phone for you. Tell them "Thank you" or...

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Because socialism means the gov't owns the means of production, and capitalism is based on PRIVATE property rights. So they are forms of gov't that go far beyond just economics.

Where do you get these primitive ideas?

Social Security, Medicare, and Veterans Adminisstration are all socialism.

The entire public sector is socialism, including police, fire, public schools, the military, and all level of government.

Yet, somehow, through all of that, The New York Stock exchange still exists.
So do small businesses like bakeries, barber shops, and hardware stores.

How is that possible?

Government is government and economics are economics.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

The government is censoring you phone for you. Tell them "Thank you" or...

My mobile phone is to order Chinese takeout or pizza on my way home or to call the auto club to fix a flat.
Everything else is bullshit to me.

 

[LV426]

That’s one fine example of a beautiful American redneck girl. Thank you for posting this, and don’t be jealous.

She looks like a trans woman.

 

[Bigdog]

Where do you get these primitive ideas?

Social Security, Medicare, and Veterans Adminisstration are all socialism.

The entire public sector is socialism, including police, fire, public schools, the military, and all level of government.


How is that possible?

Government is government and economics are economics.

None of them are means of production owned by the Federal gov't.

And does the Fed gov't own my SS money? ... just because LBJ destroyed the SS lockbox?

The military buys everything from the private sector.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

None of them are means of production.

Exactly, which is why your outdated definitions don't begin to apply.

Democratic socialism thrives throughout the world--just not in backward America--and those nations all have a thriving private sector..

 

[Bigdog]

Exactly, which is why your outdated definitions don't begin to apply.

Democratic socialism thrives throughout the world--just not in backward America--and those nations all have a thriving private sector..

So you are changing the definition of socialism to some new definition?

 

[Mr.Badguy]

I don't understand why I see so many posts with absolutely no text.

How is everybody else seeing it?

Is it because they're on phones instead of laptops?

I only browse this forum on my phone, I always have to scroll to the bottom and change to the full site theme to see tweets.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

So you are changing the definition of socialism to some new definition?

And you're ignoring reality throughout the world.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I only browse this forum on my phone, I always have to scroll to the bottom and change to the full site theme to see tweets.

Got it. I use my mobile to order take out on my way home or to call AAA to fix a flat....period.

Land line comes with my cable and internet, and that's still my primary phone.

I was born in 1946, and it may as well have been 1926 in my case!

 

[Bigdog]

And you're ignoring reality throughout the world.

And you're ignoring the definition of the word Socialism. You already told me it's an economic system.

 

[evince]

are you on twitter? because I don't see posts with twitter links, maybe because i'm not on twitter. I have to do a 'reply with quote' to see the link inside.

I see it and I’m not on twitter

 

[evince]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n8REL7srUXc



It seems she is gay

 

[NiftyNiblick]

And you're ignoring the definition of the word Socialism. You already told me it's an economic system.

You should have stuck with Rush. MLK was a socialist.

 

[Bigdog]

You should have stuck with Rush. MLK was a socialist.

What did MLK like about the gov't owning the means of production?

 

[LV426]

Why do you think the video is the worst? ... is it her tatoos?

The lyrics, the beat, the "chorus", the melody, her voice, the cracker assortment...all fucking awful.

 

[LV426]

What did MLK like about the gov't owning the means of production?

That it isn't owned and exploited by white men.

 

[Callinectes]

She looks like a trans woman.

NOW you have a beef with trannys?!