Indiana's new abortion law won't save babies. It will only make my patients suffer.

According to some con M E N, if it's "real" rape, there's no pregnancy, right?


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That's what Todd Akin says. I'm sure there are others but he's the first one I thought about.
 
That's what Todd Akin says. I'm sure there are others but he's the first one I thought about.

I suspect that a lot of M E N think there's "no such thing as rape" to begin with. Probably the same ones smearing Michelle Fields.



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That's a Draconian view. Her rights don't "end at the door," because the fetus needs her body.

For theoretical purposes, consider a scenario where someone was able to implant a fetus into your body without your knowledge. Do you think the state could then compel you to carry that to term? It's somewhat preposterous to consider that, and even crazier to agree that the state could compel something like that. It's your body, and your choice.

Suicide is illegal so is assisted suicide in most states.
 
Let's nitty-gritty this one right down to the root, shall we?

For everyone who is anti-choice, I have a simple question:

If a woman you have never met, that you will never meet, and that you have no chance of meeting, who lives either in your town or on the other side of the country, chooses to terminate a pregnancy, what iron have you got in the fire that you should be seeking to stop her?
I'm opposed to murder. Aren't you?
 
He's jealous of black people, isn't he?

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You mean the social welfare they receive, over 70% being bastards like you, an average IQ less than all other groups, higher unemployment than all other groups, higher crime rates than all other groups? Not selling me on what there it to be jealous of.
 
So the Court decided unborn babies don't have equal rights to life and voila you're OK with them being killed.
when did you develop a reading comprehension handicap?

I'm not persuaded that a right to life should be so easilly dismissed. Too bad you value human rights so casually. I don't eqivocate over rights. SCOTUS got it wrong. Indeed, they used antiquated science and poor reasoning. Now a woman can legally kill another and people like you can pretend they are equitable about the law.l

you face two problems with this. 1) if you allow the courts to decide what is a right, then isn't a right anymore...we will eventually have no rights left. 2) you have somehow badly overestimated the value I place on human life. I've seen the cruelty of humans far too often in the animals I rescue, so it's relatively easy for me to dismiss the lives of most people.
 
? Genetic research can definitively conclude that a fetus may be born with Down syndrome and the woman can have an abortion. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Is there some law I'm unaware of that limits abortion because of birth or genetic defects?

my question to you was to assess what exactly your pursuit of allowing abortions are. If it's to ensure birth control on a whim, that's pretty selfish. If it's to ensure a 'perfect' child, that also pretty selfish. I used ALS as an example to see if you would approve of abortions being performed on a fetus that shows that gene.
 
Conservative mantra... the Government cant do anything well, except manage abortion policy and regulate abortion doctors.
 
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