In Defense of Carbon Dioxide

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Article from the WSJ
  • HARRISON H. SCHMITT
  • AND
  • WILLIAM HAPPER
Of all of the world's chemical compounds, none has a worse reputation than carbon dioxide. Thanks to the single-minded demonization of this natural and essential atmospheric gas by advocates of government control of energy production, the conventional wisdom about carbon dioxide is that it is a dangerous pollutant. That's simply not the case. Contrary to what some would have us believe, increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will benefit the increasing population on the planet by increasing agricultural productivity.

The cessation of observed global warming for the past decade or so has shown how exaggerated NASA's and most other computer predictions of human-caused warming have been—and how little correlation warming has with concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide. As many scientists have pointed out, variations in global temperature correlate much better with solar activity and with complicated cycles of the oceans and atmosphere. There isn't the slightest evidence that more carbon dioxide has caused more extreme weather.

The current levels of carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere, approaching 400 parts per million, are low by the standards of geological and plant evolutionary history. Levels were 3,000 ppm, or more, until the Paleogene period (beginning about 65 million years ago). For most plants, and for the animals and humans that use them, more carbon dioxide, far from being a "pollutant" in need of reduction, would be a benefit. This is already widely recognized by operators of commercial greenhouses, who artificially increase the carbon dioxide levels to 1,000 ppm or more to improve the growth and quality of their plants.

Using energy from sunlight—together with the catalytic action of an ancient enzyme called rubisco, the most abundant protein on earth—plants convert carbon dioxide from the air into carbohydrates and other useful molecules. Rubisco catalyzes the attachment of a carbon-dioxide molecule to another five-carbon molecule to make two three-carbon molecules, which are subsequently converted into carbohydrates. (Since the useful product from the carbon dioxide capture consists of three-carbon molecules, plants that use this simple process are called C3 plants.) C3 plants, such as wheat, rice, soybeans, cotton and many forage crops, evolved when there was much more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than today. So these agricultural staples are actually undernourished in carbon dioxide relative to their original design.

Although C4 plants evolved to cope with low levels of carbon dioxide, the workaround comes at a price, since it takes additional chemical energy. With high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, C4 plants are not as productive as C3 plants, which do not have the overhead costs of the carbon-dioxide enrichment system. At the current low levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, rubisco in C3 plants can be fooled into substituting oxygen molecules for carbon-dioxide molecules. But this substitution reduces the efficiency of photosynthesis, especially at high temperatures. To get around the problem, a small number of plants have evolved a way to enrich the carbon-dioxide concentration around the rubisco enzyme, and to suppress the oxygen concentration. Called C4 plants because they utilize a molecule with four carbons, plants that use this evolutionary trick include sugar cane, corn and other tropical plants.

That's hardly all that goes into making the case for the benefits of carbon dioxide. Right now, at our current low levels of carbon dioxide, plants are paying a heavy price in water usage. Whether plants are C3 or C4, the way they get carbon dioxide from the air is the same: The plant leaves have little holes, or stomata, through which carbon dioxide molecules can diffuse into the moist interior for use in the plant's photosynthetic cycles.

The density of water molecules within the leaf is typically 60 times greater than the density of carbon dioxide in the air, and the diffusion rate of the water molecule is greater than that of the carbon-dioxide molecule. So depending on the relative humidity and temperature, 100 or more water molecules diffuse out of the leaf for every molecule of carbon dioxide that diffuses in. And not every carbon-dioxide molecule that diffuses into a leaf gets incorporated into a carbohydrate. As a result, plants require many hundreds of grams of water to produce one gram of plant biomass, largely carbohydrate.

Driven by the need to conserve water, plants produce fewer stomata openings in their leaves when there is more carbon dioxide in the air. This decreases the amount of water that the plant is forced to transpire and allows the plant to withstand dry conditions better.

Crop yields in recent dry years were less affected by drought than crops of the dust-bowl droughts of the 1930s, when there was less carbon dioxide. Nowadays, in an age of rising population and scarcities of food and water in some regions, it's a wonder that humanitarians aren't clamoring for more atmospheric carbon dioxide. Instead, some are denouncing it.
We know that carbon dioxide has been a much larger fraction of the earth's atmosphere than it is today, and the geological record shows that life flourished on land and in the oceans during those times. The incredible list of supposed horrors that increasing carbon dioxide will bring the world is pure belief disguised as science.

Mr. Schmitt, an adjunct professor of engineering at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, was an Apollo 17 astronaut and a former U.S. senator from New Mexico. Mr. Happer is a professor of physics at Princeton University and a former director of the office of energy research at the U.S. Department of Energy.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323528404578452483656067190.html#printMode
 

he is saying that he is attempting to divert the topic from the OP with some nonsense about the date of the article. In other words, he does not wish to discuss the OP, but rather disrupt the thread with his standard nonsense. He will attempt to get you going back and forth with him about why you didn't post the article 3.2 seconds after it was released.
 
he is saying that he is attempting to divert the topic from the OP with some nonsense about the date of the article. In other words, he does not wish to discuss the OP, but rather disrupt the thread with his standard nonsense. He will attempt to get you going back and forth with him about why you didn't post the article 3.2 seconds after it was released.

Standard stuff from Heap of Dung. If I posted something from an Einstein paper on Relativity he would say the same thing!!
 
It is just wonderful that the scientific geniuses on here feel they are in possession of more facts than Harrison Schmitt, an adjunct professor of engineering at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, a Apollo 17 astronaut and a former U.S. senator from New Mexico or William Happer who is a professor of physics at Princeton University and a former director of the office of energy research at the U.S. Department of Energy.
 
So your argument is that we should terraform our natural environment, that we evolved in? You don't see that as foolhardy and dangerous?


Just admit it, rightists will say and believe anything and everything that allows them to avoid regulations for that are for the good of society. They are selfish, and would rather humanity perish than they have Rio help save it.
 
Global warming didn't exist! It's caused by the sun! It's good for us! These beliefs are contradictory, yet all of them are currently held by most rightists. There's no logical unity to then besides avoiding the need for societal regulation.
 
Global warming didn't exist! It's caused by the sun! It's good for us! These beliefs are contradictory, yet all of them are currently held by most rightists. There's no logical unity to then besides avoiding the need for societal regulation.

Harrison Schmitt has been to the Moon, you get to the end of the road and your wheels fall off.
 
Global warming didn't exist! It's caused by the sun! It's good for us! These beliefs are contradictory, yet all of them are currently held by most rightists. There's no logical unity to then besides avoiding the need for societal regulation.
Your error is that you begin with a straw man. The argument is that there is not evidence that MAN is the primary cause of global warming. Not that warming didn't happen. The sun is but one of the sources for variances in our global temperatures.
 
Holy shit, with impeccable logic like that they ought to appoint you the new director of the IPCC. What do you know about trains?


LOL. You're the dumbass appealing to an alleged authority on the grounds that he was an astronaut, Senator and enginnering proferssor.
 
Your error is that you begin with a straw man. The argument is that there is not evidence that MAN is the primary cause of global warming. Not that warming didn't happen. The sun is but one of the sources for variances in our global temperatures.

Richard Lindzen. emeritus professor at MIT covers the climate alarmist attitudes very well here. Dung only live up the road from there so he could go and see him to show him the error of his ways.

• Powerful advocacy groups claiming to represent both science and the public in the name of morality and superior wisdom
• Simplistic depictions of the underlying science so as to facilitate widespread “understanding”
• “Events,” real or contrived, interpreted in such a manner as to promote a sense of urgency in the public at large
• Scientists flattered by public attention (including financial support) and deferent to “political will” and popular assessment of virtue
• Significant numbers of scientists eager to produce the science demanded by the “public.”

http://www.jpands.org/vol18no3/lindzen.pdf
 
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