Immigration Bill

[cawacko]

stupid is as stupid does.

why is it the right cant ever think things through like adults anymore?


Why is their default setting always set on the idiot setting?

That's a hell of a response Desh. You really showed everyone. No one can argue with the ideas you laid out in support of the bill. Really good insight.

 

[/MSG/]

....and cut wages in half. You misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not opposed to permitting them visas. I'm opposed to prioritize them over families. Also the line of shit by corporations that they can't find skilled people to fill job openings is bullshit. They can't find people to fill those positions at the low price point they are offering. I'm not about to expand visa rights on that basis.

Yeah, that must be it. I mean, the shortage of 800,000 welders for example, must be imaginary.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Yeah, that must be it. I mean, the shortage of 800,000 welders for example, must be imaginary.

LOL Those aren't the highly skilled people they were talking about. Who in their right mind wants to be a welder and die of lung cancer and yes...I'm perfectly aware of how challenging a skill being a fabricator/welder is. A1-B are designated for Engineers, Scientist, Technologist, Surgeons, etc,.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

No, he pretty much eviscerated your point and exposed your bigotry. You've been pwned.

Since my original question was:

Since there's already been one amnesty and now people want what is in essence another amnesty (making those here illegally, legal); what do we do the next time we face this?

please explain how he "inviscerated" my point and exposed by "bigotry"?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

How is what he said bigoted?

Because Mott had nothing else to reply with.

 

[tekkychick]

I don't always get the legalese, but here we go:
http://www.texasbuildingtrades.org/viewarticle.asp?a=7380

"(5) Construction workers not admissible. Aliens seeking to enter the country to perform building or construction work, whether on-site or in-plant, are not eligible for classification or admission as B - 1 nonimmigrants under section 101(a)(15)(B) of the Act. However, alien nonimmigrants otherwise qualified as B - 1 nonimmigrants may be issued visas and may enter for the purpose of supervision or training of others engaged in building or construction work, but not for the purpose of actually performing any suc h building or construction work themselves."


However, does look like they can come under the H-2B visa
"Worker Skills: Oil and Gas Drilling, Oil and Gas Production, Pipeline Construction, Pipeline Maintenance. Inspectors, Wild Well Control and Suppression, Diesel Engine Mechanic, Gas Engine Mechanic, Manual Transmission Mechanic, Automatic Transmission Mechanic, Welder (AMSE, AWS, etc/ Coded), Welder (Non-Coded), Electrician, Heavy Equipment Operator"

http://usah2bvisa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=6


Have not found how many visas were given to welders. BUT my guess is that welders fall under union contracts and therefore don't depress wages; programmers, DBAs, etc don't have unions.

 

[/MSG/]

LOL Those aren't the highly skilled people they were talking about. Who in their right mind wants to be a welder and die of lung cancer and yes...I'm perfectly aware of how challenging a skill being a fabricator/welder is. A1-B are designated for Engineers, Scientist, Technologist, Surgeons, etc,.

Yes I know, my comment was to simply illustrate that there IS a skills gap in industry, and it's not being filled any time soon. Importing labor (and hopefully enticing them to stay legally) is a great way to build both the short term and potential long term skill suply.