Illegal faces deportation. Wife cries " But we haven't done anything wrong"

grapnel said:
What bargain? Read the article. Someone from the government told him is he showed up annually to see if he could stay, he could. So he did. That is the fault of whatever government agency told him to do that. Not the guy.
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You mean the "they" told him he could stay? Who is the someone from the government?
 
cawacko said:
I'm with you. The focus should be on criminals first, not people like this guy who hasn't done anything and received conflicting info.
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When he came here, did he come legally or illegally? That he was given a condition for staying, I'd say the latter. That makes him a criminal and his wife incorrect when she says he did nothing wrong.
 
grapnel said:
Think? If you did something wrong and some government agency told you different to keep you out of jail or something like that, what would you do? THINK....
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That same thing I do with anything that sounds too good to be true.
 
CFM said:
When he came here, did he come legally or illegally? That he was given a condition for staying, I'd say the latter. That makes him a criminal and his wife incorrect when she says he did nothing wrong.
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Of the people who came here illegally this guy does not need to be the focus. Folks like the guy who killed Kate Steinly in SF do.
 
grapnel said:
That is a dangerous precedent to be setting for future politicians. It could come back and bite you ( not this particular law). Say some government agency in this administration says you are legally doing something. Maybe a fine you do not have to pay for example. Now the next administration comes in, needs money, says screw that find everyone that was forgiven for paying and make them pay. There needs to be continuity across political administrations. One person should not have that kind of power.
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That, in a manner of speaking, is exactly what Obamacare did. There was nothing illegal about not having healthcare coverage prior to that. When Obamacare went into effect, there was a fine put in place for those that didn't do what was not punishable by a fine prior to that. Those that had no problem supporting such a concept now have a problem with the same type of thing being done.
 
grapnel said:
That is not what I meant at all. If you have a law it should be enforceable across all administrations. Not selective.
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Why didn't the Obama administration enforce immigration law that was put in place prior to his election?
 
cawacko said:
Of the people who came here illegally this guy does not need to be the focus. Folks like the guy who killed Kate Steinly in SF do.
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Both need to be the focus. If the focus had been on the guy that killed Kate Steinly before he did it, maybe she wouldn't have been killed.

Why do you justify crime?
 
CFM said:
The left wants to punish businesses that hire illegals. Why shouldn't the idiot from the government agency that lied to the illegal get punished?
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We're still waiting for some proof that a govt agent lied to him. All illegals are pathological liars amd criminals and you can't take their word on anything. THINK
 
CFM said:
Both need to be the focus. If the focus had been on the guy that killed Kate Steinly before he did it, maybe she wouldn't have been killed.

Why do you justify crime?
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The killer had a criminal record. He should never have been set free. That is who we need to target.
 
grapnel said:
That is a dangerous precedent to be setting for future politicians. It could come back and bite you ( not this particular law). Say some government agency in this administration says you are legally doing something. Maybe a fine you do not have to pay for example. Now the next administration comes in, needs money, says screw that find everyone that was forgiven for paying and make them pay. There needs to be continuity across political administrations. One person should not have that kind of power.
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agreed. but that would mean Congress needs to actually pass laws and not just let executive orders flip-flop from one president to the other
When is the last time Congress tackled any meaningful immigration reform?
The illegal situation gets worse. Obama tries catch and release and DARPA

DARPA is found unConstituional,and catch and release ineffective because nobody bothers to show up for their court date.
So you wind up with different POTUS emphasizing different aspects by different enforcement.
That's a really bad way to run policy
 
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