If the Senate allows a fair trial...

[Port Tack]

I have you boxed in, Frank.

If you disagree with Vindman, you destroy 1/2 the main testimony. If you agree with Vindman, you owe me an apology.

What's it gonna be Frank. More whining like a bitch, or will you take a stand like a man.

You have noone boxed in. A dozen witnesses all say the same thing and all of them more credible than trump. Even you know the fucker is guilty and simply don't want to admit it.

 

[Port Tack]

If the testimony was strong enough to impeach, why were the Articles not sent to the Senate?

There is no impeachment until they are received in the Senate.

Nervous Nancy has messed in her mess gear.

If she sends them, the president will be exonerated.

If she doesn’t send them,there is no impeachment.

Unbelievable anyone is fucking stupid enough to make such a claim. Trump has been impeached.

 

[Micawber]

What a fucking stupid comment.

When they are delivered his next troll would be some other fact denial, so don't try and count the dumb, it's endless.

 

[Port Tack]

vague assertions are not impeachable.
The Article are written as charges/ the impeachment text of the Constitution does not allow for Abuse of Power
-only crimes

President Richard Nixon made himself subject to impeachment the day he failed to answer a congressional subpoena. - Lindsey Graham

 

[Ralph]

If the Senate conducts a fair and through trial with witnesses such as mulvaney, and Bolton... Trump will be removed.

Why should there be more discovery when Congress has already established that they have "enough" evidence to impeach? Its time to prosecute, Congress has rested their chance at evidential discovery....now its the ACCUSED that defends against these established accusations. If you have any more material witnesses to call....you are allowed only after the accused presents his rebuttal of the prosecutors charges of ABUSE of POWER and CONGRESIONAL OBSTRUCTION. Your turn in the "kill box".....its the accused that must be concerned with a "FAIR TRAIL" after the soviet style impeachment hearings held in the basement of congress....with no due process allowed to the accused.


HYPOCIRSY: Insincerity by virtue of pretension in having qualities that are not based upon previous actions.

Why the stall? Its obvious. 1. The hope of flipping some of the senators via use of the typical pressure applied by the left....BLACK MAIL. 2. The hope of the courts releasing Mr. Trumps IRS records 3. The hope of holding out long enough for Congressional Obstruction to be upheld by SCOTUS (which has been challenged via the accused when he invoked Executive Privilege 4. The hope of allowing the Senate to continue discovery through new witnesses "IF" executive privilege is shot down by SCOTUS.

Reality: Game over this to will fail just like the sham STAR CHARMBER (not one republican witness allowed to present discovery) soviet impeachment. The PROSECUTOR (Congress) knows they have a weak, unconstitutional case.....I would stall as long as I could in the hopes that SCOTUS will step in (as its constitutional duty to avoid a constitutional crisis) and simply dismiss the charges without a real trial of discovery that will UNVAIL to the public and educate the masses in relation to who the real criminals are hiding in plain sight behind a curtain of fake media outlets.

Its just been determined via the Shitforbrains spying and releasing of private phone calls......there never was an actual whistle blower.....it was a wire tap on the phone conversation that was the supposed WHISTLE BLOWER. Who introduced the whistle blower? An Obama appointee (the first in history as Obama changed the rules that allowed the POTUS to appoint instead of the DOJ as was the custom previous)…….it was the IG of the NSA (the BHO appointee), that just happened to control the collection data of all phone networks across this nation.....that Identified the HEARSAY supposed witness as VALID.(also the first time in US history where HEARSAY whistleblowing was allowed when the form was conveniently changed to accept HEARSAY). Things that make you go....HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!! (the CLOWNS in AMERICA (cia) are at it again.) 6 ways from Sunday Chuckie? Really? Game over....the spies are now being spied upon. The white hats KNOW IT ALL.

Why Stall? Must you ask? BARR/DURHAM When the curtain is drawn back on the SHIT SHOW. Where we Go 1 We go ALL. Merry Qmast.

 

[Port Tack]

You don't have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic. If this body (house of reps) determines your conduct is out of bounds in your role. - Lindsey Graham

 

[Micawber]

You don't have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic. If this body (house of reps) determines your conduct is out of bounds in your role. - Lindsey Graham

You can fill a book reciting Graham's regrets.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello dukkha,

Section 4

The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

"Other high crimes and misdemeanors" sounds a bit vague, doesn't it?

You know, you can argue this all you like. And the House may vote as it pleases regardless of such protestations.

President Trump is on his way to be the first President to be impeached more than once.

 

[PoliTalker]

Greetings Micawber,

No he won't. If they conduct a scrupulously thorough and seeking inquiry and all facts are laid bare with confessions of all percipient witnesses
attributing high crime and misdemeanors to Trump, they will still acquit him on a party line vote. Then Trump will be defeated in the biggest landslide
in the history of politics and the Senate will be blue, the house will be blue and white house will be Dem too.

Nice vision at this point. And let us hope the Democrats, when they do take power back, will wise up and listen to the people instead of big money.

 

[Micawber]

President Richard Nixon made himself subject to impeachment the day he failed to answer a congressional subpoena. - Lindsey Graham

Republicans no longer recognize hypocrisy as a word, they have redefined it to mean "something else I said some other time"

 

[Port Tack]

Why should there be more discovery when Congress has already established that they have "enough" evidence to impeach? Its time to prosecute, Congress has rested their chance at evidential discovery....now its the ACCUSED that defends against these established accusations. If you have any more material witnesses to call....you are allowed only after the accused presents his rebuttal of the prosecutors charges of ABUSE of POWER and CONGRESIONAL OBSTRUCTION. Your turn in the "kill box".....its the accused that must be concerned with a "FAIR TRAIL" after the soviet style impeachment hearings held in the basement of congress....with no due process allowed to the accused.


HYPOCIRSY: Insincerity by virtue of pretension in having qualities that are not based upon previous actions.

What complete and utter bullshit. Every fucking republican in the senate knows full well trump is guilty. Having additional witnesses will only embarrass them further and make their job harder to acquit. if you think voting for the Iraq war was a stain on congress persons just wait a few years to when voting to acquit trump means you were an obvious moron.

 

[Micawber]

Greetings Micawber,



Nice vision at this point. And let us hope the Democrats, when they do take power back, will wise up and listen to the people instead of big money.

that's a mouthful. Lacking detail not sure which laws and policies in particular they were not attuned to...

 

[Micawber]

What complete and utter bullshit. Every fucking republican in the senate knows full well trump is guilty. Having additional witnesses will only embarrass them further and make their job harder to acquit. if you think voting for the Iraq war was a stain on congress persons just wait a few years to when voting to acquit trump means you were an obvious moron.

In addition, it is procedural bullshit too. The whole "your turn is the house our turn is the Senate" is lacking in any legal basis whatsoever.
It's all on them that they did nothing in the house, and will be on them if they do nothing in the senate. I'm a lawyer, Ralph clearly is not.

 

[Port Tack]

If this country (or repubs) doubt the charges against trump why are they so against having the few witnesses that can first hand corroborate what all the previous witnesses have said? Put Mulvaney, Bolton, Giuliani and Pompao under oath and we will have the answer. But repubs don't want that answer because they already know what it is.

 

[Earl]

“I’m a lawyer.”

Lol

 

[Micawber]

If this country (or repubs) doubt the charges against trump why are they so against having the few witnesses that can first hand corroborate what all the previous witnesses have said? Put Mulvaney, Bolton, Giuliani and Pompao under oath and we will have the answer. But repubs don't want that answer because they already know what it is.

Indeed. They see it as a perjury trap. And it is. None of those you named can defend the potus without committing perjury.
Is anything being done to take the scotus temperature on exec privilege claims should the dreaded
"did Trump order aid be held up until Ukraine investigates the Biden hoax" question is posed under oath to one or more of these guys
under Potus gag order? Sondland already testified all were in the know on this...

 

[Ralph]

What complete and utter bullshit. Every fucking republican in the senate knows full well trump is guilty. Having additional witnesses will only embarrass them further and make their job harder to acquit. if you think voting for the Iraq war was a stain on congress persons just wait a few years to when voting to acquit trump means you were an obvious moron.

Yeah...guilty, that's a good excuse to HOLD THE CHARGES hostage. Logic is not your friend ….. is it? The WHITE HATS have it all. The Whistle Blower was actually a wiretap by the NSA (that was introduced as valid via hearsay by an Obama Appointee...the 1st in US history the NSA IG hand picked by OBAMA, the first hand picked NSA IG in history.....also a first? Hearsay on the whistleblower application. Where is the Whistleblower? There is no whistleblower.....I would stall also in the hopes that SCOTUS steps in and dismisses the charges as being invalid......no trial is the HOPE of the left.


Yeah.....guilty. But who?

 

[PoliTalker]

Greetings Port Tack

If this country (or repubs) doubt the charges against trump why are they so against having the few witnesses that can first hand corroborate what all the previous witnesses have said? Put Mulvaney, Bolton, Giuliani and Pompao under oath and we will have the answer. But repubs don't want that answer because they already know what it is.

Which is why their whole case is BS.

They are pretty smug in their 'You have no first hand witnesses' baloney as they hold those very witnesses back.

 

[Earl]

Yeah...guilty, that's a good excuse to HOLD THE CHARGES hostage. Logic is not your friend ….. is it? The WHITE HATS have it all. The Whistle Blower was actually a wiretap by the NSA (that was introduced as valid via hearsay by an Obama Appointee...the 1st in US history the NSA IG hand picked by OBAMA, the first hand picked NSA IG in history.....also a first? Hearsay on the whistleblower application. Where is the Whistleblower? There is no whistleblower.....I would stall also in the hopes that SCOTUS steps in and dismisses the charges as being invalid......no trial is the HOPE of the left.


Yeah.....guilty. But who?

Indeed.

 

[Earl]

Greetings Port Tack



Which is why their whole case is BS.

They are pretty smug in their 'You have no first hand witnesses' baloney as they hold those very witnesses back.

It was the Democrats in the House who held back Republican wittinesses, Snowflake..

No witnesses have been held back in the Senate because Nervous Nancy is afraid to send the Articles.