If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

Yes, you're right, most claims of miracles can be written off as coincidence and good fortune.

The miracle my wife described defies easy explanation, and because she is my spouse I have to choose to believe her - or at least I believe that she believes it, to be more accurate.

The word "Trinity" doesn't appear in the Bible, but all three elements of the Trinity are clearly described. So it's not really like the Trinity was invented centuries later; the concept of a Trinity was there from the beginning.
My wife believes in miracles too. Likewise, I do not try to convince her otherwise. :)

The concept is just that, a concept. A perception. Hundreds of year's worth of theologians trying to understand God.

As for the Bible, let's not forget that the books of the Bible were chosen, that the Bible didn't fall of the cross as one book. There were a lot of books written that were excluded such as the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of Judas and Gnostic books.


 
A very reasonable belief, since the Bible is not a modern scientific treatise nor modern historical research paper. It's chock full of poetry, allegory, hyperbole, symbolism.

afaik, the only people who insist on strict biblical literalism are fundamentalist congregations, and militant atheists.
Agreed. Weird!

Also agreed on the Bible being a mixed bag. It's why it fascinates me that certain people cherry-pick from the Bible. Not just the cherry-picking but also what they cherry-pick and how they use it over time.
 
I think the Greek tragedians Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides were profound chroniclers of human nature four centuries before the Bible. But they did not have the Bible's perspective on social justice.
As I said the bible is a great read about human nature. Whether someone did it previously doesn't change what is n
 
Obviously, I can’t help you with your willful ignorance. It’s something you have to take care of on your own. But, you won’t.

It’s much more comfortable to remain in your own ignorance than to have your dogma challenged or even questioned.
Whatever!👋
 
I think the Greek tragedians Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides were profound chroniclers of human nature four centuries before the Bible. But they did not have the Bible's perspective on social justice.

Sounds like it came from Google AI, Cy!

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I'd rank Shakespeare up there.

The Bible is unique amongst ancient literature for It's overarching emphasis on social justice and the wages of sin.

Wow. So knowledgable. You must live with Google AI.

please write in your own words, without using an AI copy/paste as a crutch

And here we go....you can click on any one of them to see the full context. You frantically google more than I eat hot food.

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Sounds like it came from Google AI! Who the fuck are these people??!!
ftfy. Any educated and well read person has heard of the three seminal Greek playwrights Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides.

It says more about you and your education that this is the first you've ever heard of them.
 
My wife believes in miracles too. Likewise, I do not try to convince her otherwise. :)

The concept is just that, a concept. A perception. Hundreds of year's worth of theologians trying to understand God.

As for the Bible, let's not forget that the books of the Bible were chosen, that the Bible didn't fall of the cross as one book. There were a lot of books written that were excluded such as the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of Judas and Gnostic books.


The Gospel of Thomas has a huge impact on my life!
Catholic ,Protestant Bibles,kept it out,Ethiopian Bible has it!
However it works for me.
 
My wife believes in miracles too. Likewise, I do not try to convince her otherwise. :)

The concept is just that, a concept. A perception. Hundreds of year's worth of theologians trying to understand God.

As for the Bible, let's not forget that the books of the Bible were chosen, that the Bible didn't fall of the cross as one book. There were a lot of books written that were excluded such as the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of Judas and Gnostic books.



The church had a sensible criteria for what books to include in the New Testament. It had be written by an eyewitness, or someone who knew the eyewitnesses; it had to have attained a level of credibility by being widely used across the Mediterranean world; and they had to be internally consistent in terms of theology and doctrine.

While it wasn't a perfect system, it did a reasonably good job of keeping out most forgeries, and keeping our the apocrypha which were not written until the second or third centuries.
 
The church had a sensible criteria for what books to include in the New Testament. It had be written by an eyewitness, or someone who knew the eyewitnesses; it had to have attained a level of credibility by being widely used across the Mediterranean world; and they had to be internally consistent in terms of theology and doctrine.

While it wasn't a perfect system, it did a reasonably good job of keeping out most forgeries, and keeping our the apocrypha which were not written until the second or third centuries.
Yet, according to scholars at least 8 of the 27 books in the NT are forgeries.
 
Yet, according to scholars at least 8 of the 27 books in the NT are forgeries.
It all goes back to the words christo meaning anointed and chresto meaning good. The monks translating a copy of a copy would change the "e" into an "i" and turn a good person into the anointed one.
 
The Gospel of Thomas has a huge impact on my life!
Catholic ,Protestant Bibles,kept it out,Ethiopian Bible has it!
However it works for me.

I find that fascinating. You were touched by a book that the normal western Cannon explicitly left out but one group kept in. It speaks volumes to the nature of the holy book. Makes you wonder if anyone got it right.
 
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