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Again, you are smuggling in and invoking an absolute standard of right and wrong.

Where are you getting this absolute objective standard of right and wrong? If nothing exists but matter and energy, you are deluding yourself. There is no absolute moral truth. An absolute standard of right and wrong doesn't exist, it's all just a matter of opinion, whim, social convention.
I'm pointing out what any one of us today, and Jesus (who is actually the same being that murdered all the children on Passover), recognize as immoral.
 
I'm pointing out what any one of us today, and Jesus (who is actually the same being that murdered all the children in Passover), would recognize as immoral.
You're smuggling in the ethos of the New Testament and calling it your own.

As an atheist you shouldn't even be smuggling in an absolute objective standard of right and wrong and claiming you are the final arbiter of moral truth. In a world of nothing but matter and energy, objective moral standards are an illusion.
 
You're smuggling in the ethos of the New Testament and calling it your own.

As an atheist you shouldn't even be smuggling in an absolute objective standard of right and wrong and claiming you are the final arbiter of moral truth.
The question of an objective basis for morality is separate from the current topic.
 
You're smuggling in the ethos of the New Testament and calling it your own.

As an atheist you shouldn't even be smuggling in an absolute objective standard of right and wrong and claiming you are the final arbiter of moral truth. In a world of nothing but matter and energy, objective moral standards are an illusion.
Militant atheists over 30 have some serious trauma going on upstairs. It would take a therapist to draw it out of them.
 
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