If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[Into the Night]

@IBDaMann has his own version of science that fits perfectly into this world view.

Science has no 'versions'.
You simply deny many theories of science.

 

[Monad Portal]

I eat jizz

I eat more jizz.

you're both disgusting.

 

[WinterBorn]

Wouldn't that be up to God?

Besides, a book is an excellent way to reach more people and more places.

 

[Monad Portal]

Wouldn't that be up to God?

Besides, a book is an excellent way to reach more people and more places.

direct contact would be best.

 

[Into the Night]

you're both disgusting.

Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

direct contact would be best.

Oh?

If Jesus Christ walked up to you and shook your hand, would you believe him?

You STILL have to take in on faith, NoName.

 

[ZenMode]

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox, Void. Your word games won't work.

Your lack of reading comprehension isn't my issue.

 

[ZenMode]

Some people worship a Harry Potter type world. Rowling tries to stop this wackiness, continually saying it's a work of fiction.

Which is as silly as worshipping any of the gods man worships today.

The Harry Potter series is a popular one, still enjoyed by people today despite the age of the work. It has become a classic, like the the Ring series by Tolkien. The movies were done well, with the earlier ones depending on 'old school' special effects and not overusing (or even using!) CGI techniques. Even the foley work was well done! It was even more successful than Star Wars.

Harry Potter is not God, the author never claimed that he was God or even god-like. You are making a false equivalence fallacy.

So, anyway....

If it can't be explained how God can allow a man to walk on water, then you're basically resorting to Harry Potter/Stranger Things type of powers.

 

[ZenMode]

You cannot make any evidence just disappear, Void. Otherwise, you are correct.

ALL religions are based on faith, even yours.

I don't need to make it disappear, since there's so little of it. The lack of evidence speaks for itself

 

[ZenMode]

I have heard of this weird religion before from one other (not on this forum). Nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible.

Do some research on the word firmament in the Bible. That will alleviate your "confusion".

 

[Monad Portal]

Oh?

If Jesus Christ walked up to you and shook your hand, would you believe him?

You STILL have to take in on faith, NoName.

believe in a handshake?

 

[ZenMode]

Do you really believe that? I though you claimed there were no gods. Which is it, dude?

Derp

 

[Monad Portal]

Inversion fallacy.

ok.

you're both disgusting but in the opposite order.

 

[Monad Portal]

So, there are no deities needed. People just need to believe there's one who will destroy you in hell if you don't love him and follow his rules.

this is how evil people and totalitarians see religion.

good and smart people know its about morality.

 

[WinterBorn]

direct contact would be best.

For whom? It seems to me that direct contact would remove one of the foundational tenets of religion. Faith.

 

[Monad Portal]

For whom? It seems to me that direct contact would remove one of the foundational tenets of religion. Faith.

humans don't need a sacerdotal fuckhead system to to usurp god's power.

 

[WinterBorn]

humans don't need a sacerdotal fuckhead system to to usurp god's power.

Some people do need religion. They want the fellowship, the learning, and the comfort.

Unless their religion requires them to break the law, there is no need to do anything. Let people worship as they choose. It is one of the fundamental reasons we exist as a nation.

 

[Monad Portal]

Some people do need religion. They want the fellowship, the learning, and the comfort.

Unless their religion requires them to break the law, there is no need to do anything. Let people worship as they choose. It is one of the fundamental reasons we exist as a nation.

maybe you are right.

I'm not sure really.

I've never been able to view life from an idiots point of view.

 

[Margot]

religion is not about explaining miracles.

its about morality.

Christianity is about we are all lowlife sinners that need Salvation

 

[Margot]

The Bible is literature, not science, and for the rational person the first step is to approach the story from the perspective of literary criticism, not molecular chemistry.

In English translations, the Greek word epi is usually translated as 'upon'. But epi can also mean "near" or "by".

The telling of the story in the gospel of John is fairly ambiguous.

So the possibilities are:

1) It was a miracle and Jesus walked upon the water.

2) Jesus was walking near the shore, and perhaps just waded out to the boat.

3) The story is parable. The authors of the gospels weren't historians strictly speaking, and their literature would have been pregnant with midrash and parable, which would be entirely consistent with the Jewish tradition of literature.

No! Jesus walked on water.