‘I Voted for Barack Because He Was Black’

Well, there are few (if any) non-racist reasons for a white person to choose to vote for a white person. And there are no intelligent reasons. That's not the case with minority groups that historically have been severely underrepresented in elected office. The fact of severe underrepresentation in elected office, particularly at the national level, is itself a pretty damned good non-racist reason to vote for a person based on race (or sex when it comes to women). It's not terribly complex stuff here, SF.

so much for martin luther's dream.....
 
Well, there are few (if any) non-racist reasons for a white person to choose to vote for a white person. And there are no intelligent reasons. That's not the case with minority groups that historically have been severely underrepresented in elected office. The fact of severe underrepresentation in elected office, particularly at the national level, is itself a pretty damned good non-racist reason to vote for a person based on race (or sex when it comes to women). It's not terribly complex stuff here, SF.



The stated REASON is RACE.....nothing else....it ain't rocket science......any other "reason" is not material to the debate.....
Using your logic, a voter can claim he only voted for the white guy because hes over 300 lbs and those guys are under represented in Washington, or some other nonsense.

Your double standard is bullshit and its become obvious, you're too much a narrow-minded partisan to educate.....you're dismissed!
 
Well, there are few (if any) non-racist reasons for a white person to choose to vote for a white person. And there are no intelligent reasons. That's not the case with minority groups that historically have been severely underrepresented in elected office. The fact of severe underrepresentation in elected office, particularly at the national level, is itself a pretty damned good non-racist reason to vote for a person based on race (or sex when it comes to women). It's not terribly complex stuff here, SF.

LMAO... if you vote for representation based solely on skin color or gender, not only are you a racist/sexist, but you are an idiot.

Tell me... If Sarah Palin was up for election against a white man, should women (like Darla, Rana, Christie) vote for her for 'better representation of women'? Or do you think they will vote for the person who actually represents more closely their positions?

Same thing for race... if Alan Keyes ran against a white man, should black people vote for him because of 'better representation'???

Try thinking these things all the way through moron.
 
LMAO... if you vote for representation based solely on skin color or gender, not only are you a racist/sexist, but you are an idiot.

If you are white and male, yes.

Tell me... If Sarah Palin was up for election against a white man, should women (like Darla, Rana, Christie) vote for her for 'better representation of women'? Or do you think they will vote for the person who actually represents more closely their positions?

I don't presume to tell people how they should vote, but I would understand.


Same thing for race... if Alan Keyes ran against a white man, should black people vote for him because of 'better representation'???

I don't presume to tell people how they should vote, but I would understand. Since we're engaging in hypotheticals, do you think Samuel L. Jackson would have voted for Keyes over say, Clinton?

Try thinking these things all the way through moron.

I've thought them through. Clearly, you have not.
 
The stated REASON is RACE.....nothing else....it ain't rocket science......any other "reason" is not material to the debate.....
Using your logic, a voter can claim he only voted for the white guy because hes over 300 lbs and those guys are under represented in Washington, or some other nonsense.

Your double standard is bullshit and its become obvious, you're too much a narrow-minded partisan to educate.....you're dismissed!


The stated reason is not racial animus. It's not racism.
 
Because I have the ability to think and to recognize that it is OK to apply different standards to different circumstances.
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Hardly......you have the ability to not fully grasp the phrase, "equal treatment", "justice for ALL" or "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".......
Up pick and choose what is moral or immoral or right or wrong or just or unjust on a whim, to suit your goals and agenda at some moment in time.....
You could probably justify anything, no matter how barbaric or hideous or unfair if it suit your purpose......
Thats what liberalism is......if its expedient, its ok....
Conservatives have principles.....
 
If you are white and male, yes.

If you are ANYONE that votes that way, you are an idiot. Period.

I don't presume to tell people how they should vote, but I would understand.

LMAO... you truly are a fucking idiot.

I don't presume to tell people how they should vote, but I would understand. Since we're engaging in hypotheticals, do you think Samuel L. Jackson would have voted for Keyes over say, Clinton?

You truly are a fucking idiot.

I've thought them through. Clearly, you have not.

No, you didn't. Which is why you look so foolish right now. Only a fucking idiot would vote for someone based solely on race/gender rather than on policy/position. If it was a case of a primary, where the two shared similar policies/positions, THEN what you are saying would be accurate. THEN it would make sense. You moron.
 
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Hardly......you have the ability to not fully grasp the phrase, "equal treatment", "justice for ALL" or "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".......
Up pick and choose what is moral or immoral or right or wrong or just or unjust on a whim, to suit your goals and agenda at some moment in time.....
You could probably justify anything, no matter how barbaric or hideous or unfair if it suit your purpose......
Thats what liberalism is......if its expedient, its ok....
Conservatives have principles.....

Of course they do......
http://www.bidstrup.com/politics.htm

The Most Fundamental Fallacy of Conservative Philosophy
The conservative theorist and the right-wing Libertarian theories from whom his ideas are derived, love to rail against the power of the state. The obtrusiveness of government, especially in economic matters, are the basis of the conservative's complaints about government.
Yet the reality of life is that it is the economic power of corporations, which conservative theory ignores, that represents the greatest circumscription of personal freedom to the vast majority of people. As conservative principles are applied to government, the increasing restraint with which corporate activities are regulated means that corporations become increasingly free to tread on the personal freedoms of individuals who are powerless to stop them.

Suppose, for example, a major corporation wishes to buy up property across the street to build a shopping mall. Those who already live across the street from the proposed shopping mall are in a very poor position to prevent the mall from being built and have to watch helplessly while their property values are negatively affected. Why? Because they don't have the political muscle that fighting the large corporation would take. In other words, those with the gold make the rules, and the rights of the individual property owners in reality don't matter. So even though the small property owner has the theoretical right to object, his objection will make little difference. As the zoning regulations become increasingly watered down, individual property owners are finding they have fewer and fewer options for stopping the loss of value of their principal investment, because of the greed of a major corporation.

But the most serious circumscription of personal rights by corporations is in the workplace. The constitution and the bill of rights are essentially left at the workplace door. There is no freedom of speech, no freedom of assembly, no right of privacy, no right to petition for a redress of grievances, and little if any recourse for an unjust decision by management. And now, at least in Michigan and increasingly in other states, workers injured on the job are no longer entitled to compensation either for injuries or for lost income in any practical way.

The conservative argument is that the worker has the right to bargain for improved conditions; but if the worker has no bargaining power, that right exists in theory only. A father with hungry mouths to feed and a single job offer has far fewer options than does a huge corporation with a massive human resources department. And when the ability to organize a union is stifled by unfavorable labor law, it isn't possible for the worker to aggregate that power.
 
If you are ANYONE that votes that way, you are an idiot. Period.


LMAO... you truly are a fucking idiot.



You truly are a fucking idiot.



No, you didn't. Which is why you look so foolish right now. Only a fucking idiot would vote for someone based solely on race/gender rather than on policy/position. If it was a case of a primary, where the two shared similar policies/positions, THEN what you are saying would be accurate. THEN it would make sense. You moron.


SF, maybe you should try to think about things from a perspective other than your own. I mean, it's really easy for a white guy to say that voting for a person because of his or her race or voting for a woman because she is a woman is always stupid. You've never really been faced with that choice and have no good reason for actually considering it.

And I didn't say it would be the best or optimal way to vote, just that I can understand where it's coming from.
 
SF, maybe you should try to think about things from a perspective other than your own. I mean, it's really easy for a white guy to say that voting for a person because of his or her race or voting for a woman because she is a woman is always stupid. You've never really been faced with that choice and have no good reason for actually considering it.

And I didn't say it would be the best or optimal way to vote, just that I can understand where it's coming from.


It's quite ridiculous. Never before have black people had the opportunity to vote for anyone other than a white man for president. As soon as a viable black candidate appears, we're accused of racism, voting for the black guy. But when we voted for the white guy, where were our kudos then? It stands to reason, if you're going to chastised for voting your heart or your mind or your race, you ought to be given a medal for voting against it.
 
It's quite ridiculous. Never before have black people had the opportunity to vote for anyone other than a white man for president. As soon as a viable black candidate appears, we're accused of racism, voting for the black guy. But when we voted for the white guy, where were our kudos then? It stands to reason, if you're going to chastised for voting your heart or your mind or your race, you ought to be given a medal for voting against it.

You've already proven you're a racist months ago.....you don't need to reinforce that fact over and over on every thread.....

though I'm happy you're gonna vote for Alan Keyes if he runs for President....so will I.....
 
You've already proven you're a racist months ago.....you don't need to reinforce that fact over and over on every thread.....

though I'm happy you're gonna vote for Alan Keyes if he runs for President....so will I.....

Yes...so you say. So do all the other racists and bigots, in all the other forums I belong to, and have removed myself from say. Racist against whom, may I ask? The white liberals here? The white friends I have on facebook? The white members of my readers group...or the many white people that buy my music cd? Who?
Well, since you're hard-pressed to answer that question, I'll address your further nonsense.
Alan Keyes? Why would I vote for a Stephin Fetchit of the first magnitude? He's white for all practical purposes...and not just anybody's "white"...he's Old Southern Democrat, racist white. No...see, I would only vote for a black man with integrity, and intelligence...and an avowed liberal and Democrat. Alan Keyes ain't none of that. LOL.
 
It's quite ridiculous. Never before have black people had the opportunity to vote for anyone other than a white man for president. As soon as a viable black candidate appears, we're accused of racism, voting for the black guy. But when we voted for the white guy, where were our kudos then? It stands to reason, if you're going to chastised for voting your heart or your mind or your race, you ought to be given a medal for voting against it.

nice dishonest portrayal of people have said. no one is a racist unless they vote based solely or primarily on skin color. i have no doubt you called whites racist for wanting to vote for a white guy....
 
All these people claiming black racism are at least klan lite. It's indicative of how not over racism we are. One of your great uncles or granpaws got a management job cause he married into, was born into, or went to Lilly white school to get it. One of poets great uncles or grampaw was not allowed in white restaunts, could only workin in the kitchen and knew someone who was lynched. Spare me your blacks can be racist to ya fucking morons. You are all an embarrassment to an already embarrassing white race!
 
SF, maybe you should try to think about things from a perspective other than your own. I mean, it's really easy for a white guy to say that voting for a person because of his or her race or voting for a woman because she is a woman is always stupid. You've never really been faced with that choice and have no good reason for actually considering it.

And I didn't say it would be the best or optimal way to vote, just that I can understand where it's coming from.

tranlastion:

i understand liberal racism....
 
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