"I love the poorly educated"

christiefan915 said:
The people in his crowds should be insulted that he insinuated they're poorly-educated, but instead they lap it up and ask for more.
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It’s kind of a fact isn’t it, if you didn’t graduate from college you are poorly educated? Working class may be the more P.C. term but it’s the same thing. (and when has Trump ever been PC?)

(And to be clear, I am no way putting down non college educated people. A higher education level does not automatically make one a better person.)

Edit: Read the OP again. Its states politicians shouldn’t rely on the poorly educated for support. Wouldn’t that be just as insulting if not more? Imagine if we had slogans saying “the poorly educated persons vote only counts for half a vote because you’re not worthy of a full vote”.
 
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christiefan915 said:
Sometimes I think he's truly lost the plot. Was he this way on DCJ?

I suppose he could be posting blind drunk, too.
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He's just a jerk from Alabama. I go further back than DCJ with him. Same time frame as Minty.

He can't have a serious conversation about politics.
 
christiefan915 said:
Of course. The people he connects with aren't known for being deep thinkers. They tend to rely on absolutes and slogans.
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trump always has to be the smartest person in the room. Literally impossible, but surrounding himself with idiots increases the odds.

Appealing to same increases his chances of him getting a Democrat in the White House in '24
 
Althea said:
trump always has to be the smartest person in the room. Literally impossible, but surrounding himself with idiots increases the odds.

Appealing to same increases his chances of him getting a Democrat in the White House in '24
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That's Obama....Trump is the one who wants all the action in the room to be centered on him.

R U really this stupid or are you yet another liar?
 
cawacko said:
Not discussing him, but that particular comment. I don’t understand why it bothers people. He’s said plenty of not nice things, why are people then upset that he said he loves a group of people (and that group of people includes those from all walks of life and backgrounds) and still talking about it years later?
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What makes you think we're upset when we bring it up? He meant it as mockery, which almost everyone but the targets seem to understand. We also mean it as mockery when we bring it up. In another post you said it was a Christian thing to say. It absolutely is not Christian at all. It's just more of #TRE45ON's usual cruelty. He's gloating that he can put one over on them because they're not educated or smart.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
What makes you think we're upset when we bring it up? He meant it as mockery, which almost everyone but the targets seem to understand. We also mean it as mockery when we bring it up. In another post you said it was a Christian thing to say. It absolutely is not Christian at all. It's just more of #TRE45ON's usual cruelty. He's gloating that he can put one over on them because they're not educated or smart.
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Remember the good old days when we thought that Dubyah would go down in history as the most incompetent buffoon to ever occupy the White House?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I know, right? It's a good example of "It can always get worse." lol
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Cheney destroyed the gentle balance in the Mid East forever. Pandora's box, as it were. The market could have collapsed under any administration, given that everyone in Washington is a whore for the Stock Market.

What trump did, and is still doing, was/is an attempt to destroy the entire system of govt. by inciting violence across American society. Purely for his own profit.

The nation will not truly be safe until he's dead.
 
Althea said:
Cheney destroyed the gentle balance in the Mid East forever. Pandora's box, as it were. The market could have collapsed under any administration, given that everyone in Washington is a whore for the Stock Market.

What trump did, and is still doing, was/is an attempt to destroy the entire system of govt. by inciting violence across American society. Purely for his own profit.

The nation will not truly be safe until he's dead.
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I hate that I must agree with that because wishing ppl dead isn't my thing. But it is what it is. As long as that sack of pus sucks air, he will continue to be a divisive spreader of hatred and violence.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
What makes you think we're upset when we bring it up? He meant it as mockery, which almost everyone but the targets seem to understand. We also mean it as mockery when we bring it up. In another post you said it was a Christian thing to say. It absolutely is not Christian at all. It's just more of #TRE45ON's usual cruelty. He's gloating that he can put one over on them because they're not educated or smart.
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I said its a Christian thing to say because God loves everyone. God said give me your sick, your poor etc. As I understand God he didn't say 'I like all people but I really prefer those who went to elite boarding schools then the Ivy League' etc. I also said Trump didn't say it for Christian reasons.

It's just a reality that in partisan politics if you don't like someone, a political party etc. you're probably not going to like whatever they say. Doesn't matter what it is. To me, that's exactly it here. That years later, people who historically have claimed to be supporters of the poorly educated are still upset because one person they don't like said he loves the poorly educated just drives that point home.
 
christiefan915 said:
I jumped in when you said this: "Trump's comment might be the most Christian thing he said in his life. (he didn't say it for Christian reasons but nonetheless it was showing love to the lower class of society)"

I guess it was the first part that got me, because I never consider trump as having any religious awareness and speaking about it. I believe the remark was cold political calculation, and that unfortunately people with religious sensibilities believe him.
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Trump wants his rubes to go to prison for him in misguided attempts to storm the Capitol or prevent Trump's arrest.

There's not any remotely Christian about that. It it strictly based on self interest for Trump.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
People with at or below normal IQs tend to see things in black and white, particularly if they were raised Christian and/or conservative. Candidates who appeal to strong emotions -- particularly fear, distrust, anger, hate -- appeal to these guys. Candidates who can frame complex issues (like immigration for example) into simple either-or/us-vs-them memes appeal to these guys.

I'm not convinced that even education can fix this.
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Excellent post.

And they can be easily distracted.

Polling shows that Dem voters and Republican voters overwhelming support the same core things, in terms of health care reform, seeing corporations and the rich pay their fair share, Medicare and SS, etc, etc. People are immensely resentful and angry at how the systems of government are forgetting them.

Those should be the issues that get Politicians elected or booted from office and the Republicans know that. They know if the people are not distracted to vote on culture war items they may unite and vote for real change.

That is why Trump and so many Republicans echo a version of the Bernie Sanders message that they represent the forgotten every man. But the Republicans do it so they can then loot the treasury and give massive tax cuts to the rich and corporations while screaming "WHATABOUT TRANS PEOPLE".

And stupid people, like the Trump supporters and republican voters here are dumb and as such they fall for it. They empower the very people stealing from them as they are the only ones going to protect them from a burlesque show in a place they will never visit.
 
BartenderElite said:
Trump has actually told the truth a few times in his life.

I try to refrain from judging anyone individually based on their education level. Obviously, there are high school dropouts who have gone on to do amazing things, and be incredibly successful.

But in GENERAL, it's not the best thing when a candidate relies on poorly educated people to maintain his or her popularity. And that is Trump's huge advantage as a candidate - those who are less educated prefer him over primary opponents, or any Democrat.

And it explains a lot about his popularity. Grifters rely on people not wising up to what they're doing.
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Maybe useful idiot is the more appropriate term to use.
 
Jarod said:
Working class and poorly educated are two different things.
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If you create a Venn diagram the bulk of 'poorly educated' by any standard would also fall into the working class bucket.


that is not a bad thing, it is just a fact.

When it becomes bad is when those poorly educated and incurious are closed minded which is a venn diagram huge overlap with being religious. the more religious the more close minded to fact, science, etc. And then it goes from bad to dangerous when those poorly educated, often religious, close minded dumb people think they should lead society and they believe 'experts' are to laughed at and disregarded.

Case in point Lauren Boebert.

When people like that gain power, they can take no advice. And a person who cannot take advice in areas they are weak and just thinks they should make the call anyway is a danger.
 
The stress and pressure of the average citizen is due to an incredible wealth gap. The wealthy are turning America into a plutocracy by gathering enormous amounts of money. The wealth gap is worse than the Gilded Age and getting worse every day. Money=power. We are realizing we are pawns in a huge game. The price we pay is security. Knowing you are powerless makes you seek a person who has the desire to change everything. Maybe you will be better off. In walks Trump , blustering about how only he can change and solve the problems.
Trump is not the solution. What he wants is to accelerate the power of the wealthy takeover. He thinks he is one of them.
 
Nordberg said:
The stress and pressure of the average citizen is due to an incredible wealth gap. The wealthy are turning America into a plutocracy by gathering enormous amounts of money. The wealth gap is worse than the Gilded Age and getting worse every day. Money=power. We are realizing we are pawns in a huge game. The price we pay is security. Knowing you are powerless makes you seek a person who has the desire to change everything. Maybe you will be better off. In walks Trump , blustering about how only he can change and solve the problems.
Trump is not the solution. What he wants is to accelerate the power of the wealthy takeover. He thinks he is one of them.
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That's an excellent observation.

The grievances that Trump speaks to in his followers are partly created by that gap - but he's not going to address that. Republicans, in general, do not. Democrats do only marginally.

It's weird. If there is one thing we can all count on, it's that the gap between the rich & poor will continue to grow, year in & year out. It's not really a system most people should support.
 
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