moon
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That's only because Americans have been poorly represented by the billionaire, military/industrial complex elite. That's going to change, sooner or later.
Human Rights Watch; ' Killing of Palestinians in Gaza 'unlawful, calculated '
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That's only because Americans have been poorly represented by the billionaire, military/industrial complex elite. That's going to change, sooner or later.
Fentoine Lum
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Not as long as all they do is vote, no.
moon
Satire for Sanity
The voting system requires an overhaul. IT will allow frequent referenda, widespread information sharing and uncensored exchanges of ideas.
Well lookie- here we are.
Edit; I've kept ' Israel' on page 1 of this site almost single-handedly for a year. Small victories add up.
Fentoine Lum
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Sure, sure, great. Vote. And wait.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Frequent IT referenda will allow us to take control of our ' representatives'- instead of the other way around.
Fentoine Lum
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You're dreaming, your 'representatives' represent the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class alone and your economic system subjugates you into acceptance for survival's sake. Your dream makes it seem more seem more palatable to exist under these conditions, but no substantive change will ever come working within the confines the system provides you.
The Arab populations of both the disputed territories and Israel proper have grown exponentially since 1948, there is no ethnic cleansing. Furthermore; all Israeli citizens (including the nearly 30% Arab population) have full and equal rights under the law.
Also, the assertion that AIPAC has more influence on US politics than Arab oil money or even the AARP is laughable. You are simply rebraning the classic anti-Semitic canard that Jews secretly control the government with Zionist in place of Jew and hoping no one will notice.
My my, you have Israeli fever bad. If every Palestinian had a weapon in their hand they still couldn't beat Israel and yet you all act as if Israel is on the verge of annihilation just because some Muslims rant about it.
Israelis must live in constant fear they will cease to exist at any moment because some extreme Muslims want to take them out, with what? Who knows but by god it's a valid threat that will no doubt come true...some day.
Israel has every right to defend themselves from Arab terrorist aggression you are a typical blame the victim leftist POS. That the Arabs lack the capacity to annihilate Israel does not make their wish to do so or Israels right of self defense any less true or valid.
Israel targets terrorists who use women, children, and old people as human shields.
"Right of return," is Arab Nazi code for the destruction of Israel through a demographic shift. There is no legal right of return, UNGA resolutions are non-binding and do not have the force of international law and even if they did there is no such thing as inherited refugee status.
Fentoine Lum
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No, I'm not, ... but the nation state of Israel cannot publicly stand behind what it does intentionally so they have to drag up their classic anti-Semitism canard hoping no one will notice what the world notices anyway. Israel must conflate what it does with what some Jewish folk suffered in the Holocaust while they wage their own on Palestinians.
• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan
Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.
The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.
Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.
The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.
moon
Satire for Sanity
As I said- frequent electronic referenda will break ' the confines of the system '.
Control your representative and you control your government. Control your government and you regain control of your life.
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moon
Satire for Sanity
You're a lying parrot;
You are clearly incapable of absorbing truth. There is a legal Right of Return and also ' inherited refugee status ' in the case of the Palestinians. Thank you for the opportunity to expose you as a prosemitic liar again.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/09/2011922135540203743.html
Read it and weep crocodile tears for the rogue Zionist state.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Legal effect
While not a treaty itself, the Declaration was explicitly adopted for the purpose of defining the meaning of the words "fundamental freedoms" and "human rights" appearing in the United Nations Charter, which is binding on all member states. For this reason, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a fundamental constitutive document of the United Nations. In addition, many international lawyers[35][36][37][38] believe that the Declaration forms part of customary international law[39] and is a powerful tool in applying diplomatic and moral pressure to governments that violate any of its articles. The 1968 United Nations International Conference on Human Rights advised that the Declaration "constitutes an obligation for the members of the international community" to all persons. The Declaration has served as the foundation for two binding UN human rights covenants: the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. The principles of the Declaration are elaborated in international treaties such as the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, the International Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women, the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, the United Nations Convention Against Torture, and many more. The Declaration continues to be widely cited by governments, academics, advocates, and constitutional courts, and by individuals who appeal to its principles for the protection of their recognised human rights.
Ergo- there is a legal Right of Return- for everybody. Also , all descendants of Palestinian refugees automatically have refugee status.
While not a treaty itself, the Declaration was explicitly adopted for the purpose of defining the meaning of the words "fundamental freedoms" and "human rights" appearing in the United Nations Charter, which is binding on all member states. For this reason, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a fundamental constitutive document of the United Nations. In addition, many international lawyers[35][36][37][38] believe that the Declaration forms part of customary international law[39] and is a powerful tool in applying diplomatic and moral pressure to governments that violate any of its articles. The 1968 United Nations International Conference on Human Rights advised that the Declaration "constitutes an obligation for the members of the international community" to all persons. The Declaration has served as the foundation for two binding UN human rights covenants: the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. The principles of the Declaration are elaborated in international treaties such as the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, the International Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women, the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, the United Nations Convention Against Torture, and many more. The Declaration continues to be widely cited by governments, academics, advocates, and constitutional courts, and by individuals who appeal to its principles for the protection of their recognised human rights.
Ergo- there is a legal Right of Return- for everybody. Also , all descendants of Palestinian refugees automatically have refugee status.
Show me the international law. There is no right of return for people that have never set foot on land that they are supposedly returning to, there is no such thing as inherited refugee status, your calls for the right of return are nothing but code for the destruction of Israel through a demographic shift.
All in bolded show clearly this is not international law nor treaty. Sadly I might add.
Spotters and suspected terrorists being detained during raids are not human shields and your articles make clear that actual use of human shields is illegal in Israel.
You have proven nothing. Your al-Jazeera propaganda is a pack of lies in an attempt to justify the destruction of Israel through a demographic shift, right of the bat they site a non-binding UNGA resolution which does not have the force of international law, and they do not site one single passage of international law which would grant a right of return to people who have never set foot in the place where they are supposedly returning to, the entire concept is an oxymoron.
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Your reply was a non sequitur and failed to answer the question posed.
Fentoine Lum
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Are you still going on about this stuff you have so little interest in? And if you have a coherent point, might we arrive there soon?