How was the 4th Violated?

[martin]

The 4th amendment prevents the government from seizing documents without a warrant. The passports were not covered by the warrant so they were illegally seized.

(See folks this is why it's so tiresome to debate with Libratrds . They are just too dumb to understand the Constitution.)

Liberals wrote the Constitution, and you keep imitating a broken record

Let's try it this way. If Trump suffered an injury of some kind from the brief seizure of the passports, why isn't he doing anything about it? Too shy to file claim, do you think? And what would the legal remedy be if he did file a claim?
You also keep avoiding the other question. I understand why.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

POTUS can declassify at will. there is no "procedure" (the Obama XO)
-that's for subordinate executive officials like heads of agencies/depts

 

[Monad Portal]

Liberals wrote the Constitution, and you keep imitating a broken record

Let's try it this way. If Trump suffered an injury of some kind from the brief seizure of the passports, why isn't he doing anything about it? Too shy to file claim, do you think? And what would the legal remedy be if he did file a claim?
You also keep avoiding the other question. I understand why.

how about a 6 year conspiracy against a sitting president?

passports theft is just the latest charge that will bring down the cabal!

Q lives!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

how about a 6 year conspiracy against a sitting president?

Obama? Presidential terms are only four years. Pedo Don only had one term and, I suspect, the same will apply to Biden.

 

[floridafan]

presidents always take shit for their foundations or their library or whatever.

its common.

No they do not. They just dont help them selves but take duplicate records that have been previously approved. Now throw some more shit against the wall and see what sticks.

 

[Monad Portal]

Obama? Presidential terms are only four years. Pedo Don only had one term and, I suspect, the same will apply to Biden.

im including the year before and the two years after. Its actually 7.

 

[Monad Portal]

No they do not. They just dont help them selves but take duplicate records that have been previously approved. Now throw some more shit against the wall and see what sticks.

approved by the president.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

im including the year before and the two years after. Its actually 7.

Pedo Don was only a sitting President for 4 years, dumbass.

 

[Jarod]

Warrants have to specific looking for specific things. This warrant was very broad and nonspecific. Also to look in a safe you need a specific warrant to do that. I suspect that is what Trump will challenge. Ans example of how broadly the warrant was written the agents thought they could take Trump's passport because it was a government document.

It was specific, did you read it?

 

[Jarod]

There was nothing reasonable about the search it was a falsely predicated warrant signed off on by a political hack judge in order to aid in the coverup of the FBI’s seditious conspiracy by seizing a copy of the spygate dossier that they were given a direct Presidential order to redact and release two years ago!

You have some evidence it was a falsely predicated warrant? Sounds to me like you are guessing and grasping at straws.

 

[Jarod]

How reasonable is specifying that anything from the day Trump took office until the day he left, along with anything nearby--regardless of what it is--can be seized as part of a search that covers a large estate and resort allowing agents to go virtually anywhere on it looking for stuff to take?

How does that particularly describe the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized?

Did you read the warrant? That’s not what it said.

 

[Jarod]

that's fucking ironic

The RIGHT of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

A well organized militia being necessary for a free state…

 

[floridafan]

approved by the president.

Keep throwing that shit against the wall.

 

[Jarod]

LOL - right! Just head into Mar-a-lardo guns a blazin'

You didn’t read it did you?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

A well organized militia being necessary for a free state…

You forgot the comma.

 

[Jarod]

Wrong! They were in violation and that is WHY they had to be returned. The warrant also needed to specifically list the contents of the safe for them to open his safe. It did not.

Trump was in violation and refused to return the documents he took, that’s why they had to get a warrant. The FBI is much more honorable.

 

[Jarod]

No he didn't

Prove it. - The existence of the documents at Mar-a-Lago say otherwise.

 

[Jarod]

Surprise surprised they found a ringer Federal magistrate that was a democrat donor that signed an overly broad probably illegal warrant.

What was over-broad about it? Basically they had the right to take anything illegally there… How was that overbroad?

 

[Jarod]

it's an unConstitutional general warrant. there are barely limits muchless "particularity"

Did you even read the warrant? How is the right to seize any papers illegally there overbroad?

 

[Jarod]

presidents always take shit for their foundations or their library or whatever.

its common.

Bullshit!