How Many More Must Die

kudzu said:
Not exactly......

A defensive application for asylum occurs when you request asylum as a defense against removal from the U.S. For asylum processing to be defensive, you must be in removal proceedings in immigration court with the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR).

Individuals are generally placed into defensive asylum processing in one of two ways:·

They are referred to an Immigration Judge by USCIS after they have been determined to be ineligible for asylum at the end of the affirmative asylum process, or
They are placed in removal proceedings because they:

Were apprehended (or caught) in the United States or at a U.S. port of entry without proper legal documents or in violation of their immigration status,

OR

Were caught by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) trying to enter the United States without proper documentation, were placed in the expedited removal process, and were found to have a credible fear of persecution or torture by an Asylum Officer. See Questions & Answers: Credible Fear Screenings for more information on the Credible Fear Process.

Immigration Judges hear defensive asylum cases in adversarial (courtroom-like) proceedings. The judge will hear arguments from both of the following parties:

The individual (and his or her attorney, if represented)·
The U.S. Government, which is represented by an attorney from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
The Immigration Judge then decides whether the individual is eligible for asylum. If found eligible, the Immigration Judge will order asylum to be granted. If found ineligible for asylum, the Immigration Judge will determine whether the individual is eligible for any other forms of relief from removal. If found ineligible for other forms of relief, the Immigration Judge will order the individual to be removed from the United States. The Immigration Judge’s decision can be appealed by either party.

See Granted a Green Card by an Immigration Judge for information about the grant of asylum by an Immigration Judge, .

For information about the Executive Office for Immigration Review, including the Immigration Courts and the Board of Immigration Appeals, see Executive Office for Immigration Review (PDF, 140 KB).

Key Differences Between “Affirmative” and “Defensive” Asylum Process
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The key factor is how many of them are you bleeding hearts that think they should be allowed in going to take into your homes? Unless the combined total is equal to all those demanding entry, who gives a fuck what happens. You could help stop things like this by volunteering to house them, feed them, and take care of their every need. Why do you keep causing things like this by failing to do so?
 
Old Trapper said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...rejects-trump-s-asylum-ban-5-4-ruling-n951051
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confirms what I said.....this is all that the court ruling dealt with......

blocked the president's proclamation that stopped the government from considering requests for asylum from anyone who'd crossed the southern border illegally. Only asylum claims made at border checkpoints would be considered.
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all claims must be considered does not mean all claims must be approved........historically, around ten percent of applications get approved.......if that holds true, expect 90% to stay in Mexico or go home......
 
CFM said:
The key factor is how many of them are you bleeding hearts that think they should be allowed in going to take into your homes? Unless the combined total is equal to all those demanding entry, who gives a fuck what happens. You could help stop things like this by volunteering to house them, feed them, and take care of their every need. Why do you keep causing things like this by failing to do so?
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You think that has been the way of immigrants in the past?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
confirms what I said.....this is all that the court ruling dealt with......



all claims must be considered does not mean all claims must be approved........historically, around ten percent of applications get approved.......if that holds true, expect 90% to stay in Mexico or go home......
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You forgot, or ignored:

"He may not rewrite the immigration laws to impose a condition that Congress has expressly forbidden," wrote Tigar, who was nominated to the bench by President Barack Obama."

The law allows for the applicant to remain in the US while the claim is being processed, not in Mexico.
 
Old Trapper said:
It was an example of what you asked, and have not done anything to educate yourself about. The usual idiocy of your comment does not allow for any specific answer:

You asked: "so why does the UN consider them a "safe country"??
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Please show how your Oped piece changes the FACT that the UN considers Mexico as a safe place to seek asylum??
 
Old Trapper said:
For what purpose?

Honduras is a low middle-income country that faces major challenges, with more than 66 percent of the population living in poverty in 2016, according to official data. In rural areas, approximately one out of 5 Hondurans live in extreme poverty, or on less than US$1.90 per day.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/honduras
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So, basically, we should simply allow the entire population of Honduras into this country. Or any poverty stricken country, for that matter. Why don't you quit pretending you care about people, or the rule of law, and admit you want completely open borders for all, including violent criminals. Quit pussy footing around.
 
countryboy said:
So, basically, we should simply allow the entire population of Honduras into this country. Or any poverty stricken country, for that matter. Why don't you quit pretending you care about people, or the rule of law, and admit you want completely open borders for all, including violent criminals. Quit pussy footing around.
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Why don't you admit you're an ignorant ass that cares not for the rule of law, just what Trump declares his will is for you. Quit your lying even though that would be against your nature.
 
Old Trapper said:
Why don't you admit you're an ignorant ass that cares not for the rule of law, just what Trump declares his will is for you. Quit your lying even though that would be against your nature.
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Lol, so you obfuscate your own intentions by hurling insults. Lame.
 
Old Trapper said:
You forgot, or ignored:

"He may not rewrite the immigration laws to impose a condition that Congress has expressly forbidden," wrote Tigar, who was nominated to the bench by President Barack Obama."

The law allows for the applicant to remain in the US while the claim is being processed, not in Mexico.
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the law allows, but does not require.....if you want to overturn their stay in Mexico you will have to file a new case......
 
Old Trapper said:
Read the law

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

The two ways of obtaining asylum in the United States are through the affirmative process and defensive process.
Affirmative Asylum Processing With USCIS

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
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They refused asylum in Mexico. They are under no threat in their own country. They are just parasites.
 
kudzu said:
Not exactly......

A defensive application for asylum occurs when you request asylum as a defense against removal from the U.S. For asylum processing to be defensive, you must be in removal proceedings in immigration court with the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR).

Individuals are generally placed into defensive asylum processing in one of two ways:·

They are referred to an Immigration Judge by USCIS after they have been determined to be ineligible for asylum at the end of the affirmative asylum process, or
They are placed in removal proceedings because they:

Were apprehended (or caught) in the United States or at a U.S. port of entry without proper legal documents or in violation of their immigration status,

OR

Were caught by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) trying to enter the United States without proper documentation, were placed in the expedited removal process, and were found to have a credible fear of persecution or torture by an Asylum Officer. See Questions & Answers: Credible Fear Screenings for more information on the Credible Fear Process.

Immigration Judges hear defensive asylum cases in adversarial (courtroom-like) proceedings. The judge will hear arguments from both of the following parties:

The individual (and his or her attorney, if represented)·
The U.S. Government, which is represented by an attorney from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
The Immigration Judge then decides whether the individual is eligible for asylum. If found eligible, the Immigration Judge will order asylum to be granted. If found ineligible for asylum, the Immigration Judge will determine whether the individual is eligible for any other forms of relief from removal. If found ineligible for other forms of relief, the Immigration Judge will order the individual to be removed from the United States. The Immigration Judge’s decision can be appealed by either party.

See Granted a Green Card by an Immigration Judge for information about the grant of asylum by an Immigration Judge, .

For information about the Executive Office for Immigration Review, including the Immigration Courts and the Board of Immigration Appeals, see Executive Office for Immigration Review (PDF, 140 KB).

Key Differences Between “Affirmative” and “Defensive” Asylum Process
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They are not here nor are they under threat.
They refused Mexico's offer.
They are parasites.
 
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