How do you have a world without war with sociopaths running countries?

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Thing1 said:
Again - what difference does it make why Bush went after him?

He used gas. When dictators use gas, YOU support military intervention, regardless.

Right?
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We didn't even have the discussion back then, when he used the chemical weapons. My guess if is Reagan had said he wanted to do missile strikes at Iraq WHILE he was using chemical weapons on the Kurds, Desh would have been in favor of that. We all should have been; chemical weapons have been declared illegal by all the world's governing bodies.

But you can't say that she must also have been in favor of the Iraq war; because that was a totally different time and situation from gassing the Kurds. You are trying to conflate two very different things. Hussein was no longer using chemical weapons at the time we went to war with him.

You are trying to expose something that just isn't there.
 
there are and have always been sociopaths in mankinds population.


They must not be allowed to have power.
It should be a medical condition that prevents you from serving in office.


until we can effect that one world wide then you have to be able to take these sociopaths OUT when they threaten the world
 
evince said:
right on tecky.



they backed Bush and make up all kinds of lies for him.


Now they refuse to back Obama when the world needs him backed.



The right in this country doesn't want our country to survive.

they are in the Grover plan to kill this country from within
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I don't know why I'm even surprised Desh keeps making this a straight partisan right/left thing when it is clearly more than that.

Hell on this board you Tekky, Desh and Jarod on the left supporting strikes and you have Darla, BAC, Dungheap, Rana, Mott & Christifan against with Onceler wavering.

Did Darla, BAC, Dungheap, Rana, Mott & Christifan all become right-wingers or is it Bush's fault that they won't support this action?
 
evince said:
fuck you very much.


settle down?


fuck off.

You will be treated like you deserve when you fucking lie
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You are acting like a silly partisan, as usual, and I ACCURATELY pointed it out.

Bombing Syria will not remove Assad's ability to use chemical weapons. I stated that before and you just continued ranting about Bush, Reagan and other irrelevant partisan nonsense.
 
tekkychick said:
We didn't even have the discussion back then, when he used the chemical weapons. My guess if is Reagan had said he wanted to do missile strikes at Iraq WHILE he was using chemical weapons on the Kurds, Desh would have been in favor of that. We all should have been; chemical weapons have been declared illegal by all the world's governing bodies.

But you can't say that she must also have been in favor of the Iraq war; because that was a totally different time and situation from gassing the Kurds. You are trying to conflate two very different things. Hussein was no longer using chemical weapons at the time we went to war with him.

You are trying to expose something that just isn't there.
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There is no way Desh would have supported missile strikes.

Saddam tortured and murdered many of his own people. On an "evil" scale, you'd be splitting hairs to say he is any different from Assad whatsoever.

And here we have desh - vehemently opposed to action against Saddam, but as gung-ho a war hawk as I have ever seen w/ Assad. The ONLY difference is that there is an Democrat in power now, and there was a Republican in power in 2003.

I feel a little bad that you're unable to see that, but it is what it is.
 
cawacko said:
I don't know why I'm even surprised Desh keeps making this a straight partisan right/left thing when it is clearly more than that.

Hell on this board you Tekky, Desh and Jarod on the left supporting strikes and you have Darla, BAC, Dungheap, Rana, Mott & Christifan against with Onceler wavering.

Did Darla, BAC, Dungheap, Rana, Mott & Christifan all become right-wingers or is it Bush's fault that they won't support this action?
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they are wrong.


their reasons for being wrong differ from yours.


they are just as wrong though
 
This assad is a sociopath.

you don't repetedly kill babies and feel nothing unless you are a sociopath.


Now how do you deal with someone who cares nothing about other human lives?


not like the right wants to
 
This man can not be stopped from his evil by us being all pasifists.


Never forget even Jesus whipped the money changers
 
evince said:
This Saddam, Kim Jong-un & (insert any number of rulers in Africa) is a sociopath.

you don't repetedly kill babies and feel nothing unless you are a sociopath.


Now how do you deal with someone who cares nothing about other human lives?



not like the right wants to
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FIFY
 
standing back and watching people being murdered and doing nothing is what the right in this country is trying to sell to us.

Gee I don't remember them ever being such pasifists in the past?



They are the worlds most dishonest partisan hacks this country has ever had to bare
 
They will ignore any need for action for a couple of cheap political points in their perceived game
 
evince said:
This assad is a sociopath.

you don't repetedly kill babies and feel nothing unless you are a sociopath.


Now how do you deal with someone who cares nothing about other human lives?


not like the right wants to
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Missile strikes will likely kill some babies, just as the drones do. Is it okay if you are sending a message? Is it okay if some Republicans are against it?
 
tekkychick said:
It's kind of self-selecting though, right? In most countries in the world, getting to power takes ruthlessness and blood-thirst -which tends to favor sociopaths. Even in hereditary monarchies, the surviving kid is the one who will inherit which again favors the sociopath.

In democracies, it's not quite so bad - we seem to avoid electing sociopaths, and the leaders elected are somewhat controlled by their party and other legislators. I don't think anyone would call Merkel a sociopath, to pick a more neutral example than our own country. (I don't think most of our Presidents have been sociopaths, by the way, with the possible exception of Bush Jr who had some kind of screw loose). But even in a democracy, it takes a lot of drive and desire for power to become the leader. This self-selects for certain types (Carter might be the exception to this in our country).

In non-democracies, even if a sociopath isn't the leader, he/she is often surrounded by people who may be sociopaths. And even Assad didn't seem so crazy until he faced a popular resistance- and then he went into sociopath mode. Who would have thought before the civil war that he was this hideous? Sociopaths hide themselves well.

anyway, guess I'm saying - it's human nature; there will always be war, because we can't get rid of those who want to get power any way they can.

Sucks though.
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The first thing that struck me upon reading this is how conservatives love bush and hate Carter. Hmmm....
 
IMAGINE if this was Bush?


I backed Bush into Afganistan.


I did not back him into Iraq because he was lying.

that now has been proven he was lying.


It was also proven he used WP in falugia.


What is Obama big crime here folks?


wanting to keep the assasd clown from killing YET MORE innocents and you people claim its some fucking crime to do so.


fuck you are sick assed bastards
 
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