Honest question for Confederate flag lovers: Why are you so proud of losing?

Skeleton Jelly said:
The confederate flag may as well be a white surrender flag. It's the symbol of getting your asses royally kicked by the north. And yet you tattoo it on yourselves, or put in the rear window of your pick up truck. Why are you so fixated on being losers? Are you gluttons for punishment? Do you like constantly reminding yourselves of how your ancestors/relatives chose the wrong side? Why are you so eager to ally yourself with team failure?
Click to expand...

Why are you a stupid douchebag?
 
WinterBorn said:
What I have never understood is that the same rednecks who wave the confederate flag are also the first ones to claim they are patriotic Americans. How the hell does that work?

I don't understand that, and I'm as southern as they come.
Click to expand...
There is some reason for that. Many men fought for the south in the Civil War who abhored slavery, hated the plantation owners and their degenerate social system and didn't give a rats ass about theoretical political bullshit like "States Rights". They fought to defend their homes from an invading army. That's a pretty damned good reason to fight. It's unfortunate that their political leaders were idiots of the highest magnitude. So for many southerners the Stars and Bars represent the defense of their homes. What's unfortunate is many of these descedents of the civil war are clueless and disconected from the fact that the stars and bars also represents slavery to a large portion of the population and is thus incredibly offensive.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I can remember being in a redneck bar in Georgia years back managing a project. My colleague and I were drinking and listening to a local band (who was actually very good) when the inevitable drunk southern boy jumped up and yelled "The Souths Gonna Do It Again!" and I jumped up and yelled in my midwest accent "I Certainly Hope So!". They didn't think that was too funny.
Click to expand...

Probably because it never happened
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I can remember being in a redneck bar in Georgia years back managing a project. My colleague and I were drinking and listening to a local band (who was actually very good) when the inevitable drunk southern boy jumped up and yelled "The Souths Gonna Do It Again!" and I jumped up and yelled in my midwest accent "I Certainly Hope So!". They didn't think that was too funny.
Click to expand...

Ewww...did it smell of sweat, urine, tobacco, and stupid?
 
Dont confuse what I am saying here... I am not on the Confiderate side but,...... Might does not mean right!
 
I spent a lot of time in Alabama, and my roots, on both sides, were Southern way back until they cross the pond to N. Europe, yet I am a Liberal in the classical sense so I belive I have a unique perspective on this.

There are MANY reasons Southerners become enamored with the Confederate flag. For many it is a symbol of being an underdog, an opressed majority so to speak. While middle class whites are the huge majority in the South, they often are dissatisfied with their position in the world, and pretending to be an oppressed minority helps to remove the responsability from himself to something beyond his controll, making it easier to accept.

Others honestly conisder it a symbol of their heratage and history, they rsaw it in their grandparents homes and their parents homes and it is a symbol of a culture they belong to.

Others use it as a symbol of hate and try to antagonise people they dont like.

And others use it as a form of rebellion and counterculture to prove to themselves they are different or better.
 
Justin Time said:
It is part of our history and southern tradition

Many who fought for the South were against the Federal government interfering with the right of the states to govern themselves

If any group waves a white flag it is liberals when they are confronted by terrorists and enemies of the nation like Iran
Click to expand...

Oh, brother...
 
Justin Time said:
Oh I wanted to keep them in chains?

That would make me about 160 years old

It was about states rights and the right for VA to govern VA- and so on

No, if any group wants to keep people in "chains" it is liberals by shackling them into a life of dependence
Click to expand...

What a crock
 
Steelplate said:
While I do agree this thread seems to be created to inflame, the person who's giving you advice is one of the biggest trolls on here, so if you're looking for civil and rational, take a look at his many trollish posts and you'll see what I mean.

welcome to the board... I've only been here about two weeks, so I'm fairly new too.
Click to expand...

Yeah, but you are quick and have nailed him!
 
Justin Time said:
I suspected as much but being a newbie I wanted to attempt to have a civil and rational conversation

Thank you for the confirmation
Click to expand...
Oh boy are you in trouble. Rational conversation means there is a possibility of changing minds, not here. We're all set in stone and just scream at eachother for the fun of it.
 
Justin Time said:
Looks like you need a history lesson on the Civil War

1) Many in the North owned slaves including many Union Generals

2) The war was fought over money not slavery. Pres Lincoln was worried about the loss of revenue when the South broke away from the union

3) The Confederate flag was on of three flags National flags that were carried into battle - thus the Confederate flag does not represent the Southern states

So why not worry about more important things then a flag?
Click to expand...

Being new, you will learn that there are some things Grind gets wrong, but history isn't one of them.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I can remember being in a redneck bar in Georgia years back managing a project. My colleague and I were drinking and listening to a local band (who was actually very good) when the inevitable drunk southern boy jumped up and yelled "The Souths Gonna Do It Again!" and I jumped up and yelled in my midwest accent "I Certainly Hope So!". They didn't think that was too funny.
Click to expand...

I would have clapped!
 
Jarod said:
I spent a lot of time in Alabama, and my roots, on both sides, were Southern way back until they cross the pond to N. Europe, yet I am a Liberal in the classical sense so I belive I have a unique perspective on this.

There are MANY reasons Southerners become enamored with the Confederate flag. For many it is a symbol of being an underdog, an opressed majority so to speak. While middle class whites are the huge majority in the South, they often are dissatisfied with their position in the world, and pretending to be an oppressed minority helps to remove the responsability from himself to something beyond his controll, making it easier to accept.

Others honestly conisder it a symbol of their heratage and history, they rsaw it in their grandparents homes and their parents homes and it is a symbol of a culture they belong to.

Others use it as a symbol of hate and try to antagonise people they dont like.

And others use it as a form of rebellion and counterculture to prove to themselves they are different or better.
Click to expand...
My niece got a stars and bars tatoo while in the army and boy did she get an earful about that when she got home.
 
I wonder which redneck is trolling Stormfront looking for new members for JPP?

Welcome, new guy, be prepared to be eaten alive with pure liberal logic and superior intelligence!
 
For the record I'm not a fan of the flag.

Being in the Piedmont/ mountains, I understand the different political perspectives that Southerners have. Not all were for the Confederacy, by a long shot. Folks from the rest of the country can't seem to understand that.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top