No, I don't find your jokes about your wife or women to be funny, they are very crass, I have a great sense of humor, you just arent funny. Nothing funny about saying your wife would prostitute herself or all women are just sperm recepticals to you.
Hillary Clinton says the Electoral College 'needs to be eliminated'
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The word of contention is cracker, not nxxxxx and you are not the arbiter of definitions
They aren't afraid of it, it just isn't the problem Trump thinks it is, both Democrats and Republican official say it isn't a problem. It isn't just the Dems who think the only reason Trump wants the investigation is because Hillary won the popular vote.
If he really cared about fraud he would look at gerrymandering and voter roll purges.
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Let's go Brandon!
The contention is the comparison of the two words. Have you forgotten already? Too much whiskey last night?
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You sound like Desh. You use the same stupid accusation, yet refuse to acknowledge or discuss what I stated about your 'motor voter' bullshit. Which makes YOU exactly like desh. You parrot the same thing over and over again and don't discuss anything.
No, AFRAID is the word to use. When has fraud been looked into? How do you know what occurs if you refuse to allow identification at the polls via photo ID???
Oh yeah, you don't. Which is why the Dems fight so very hard to eliminate photo ID requirements rather than just working to make sure everyone HAS an ID.
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YOU sound like desh w/ that last part. Voter fraud has been extensively investigated at local, state & federal levels. It's why it isn't JUST Dems who oppose Trump's commission - there are many red states (see: most) who have refused that commission's inquiries. If you look at the composition of that commission and what they're doing, it's obvious what their real intent is.
It's the people who buy Trump's "massive voter fraud" BS that are the desh's of the world. All that any investigation has ever found is occasional isolated incidents. Certainly nothing coordinated or anything on a mass scale. It's paranoid delusion to think otherwise at this point.
And how in the world can you deny that Republicans opposed something like motor voter? They shot down several attempts in Congress when they could, and many voted against it when it finally came to the floor.
It's fairly undeniable: Republicans do not want more people voting. They just don't. And that's actually pretty intelligent politically on their part.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
Why does it have to be a problem to try to prevent it. Let's stipulate that voter fraud is nonexistent for a second. Put it aside.
Does that mean it is still a bad idea to ensure that someone who votes is who they say they are? Why is that a bad thing? Why do you oppose that? With all of the technological ways to do things, shouldn't we ensure the integrity of our elections?
I mean given that you people believe Russia stole the election from you, I would think you would be supportive of making sure people are who they say they are.
Back to your "voter fraud isn't a problem so we shouldn't do anything" argument. It is bogus on its face. It is like saying, "nobody has attacked the US since WWII so we should just disband our army" or "Hey, I haven't lost a foot yet so I don't need to worry about my high blood sugar"
You have been too wrong for so long
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I wouldn't oppose it if I trusted the intent of the commission. If you look at the history of some of its members, it is rife w/ efforts to suppress the vote. I believe they will use their authority to at least try to do that. They're not stupid; they know that voter fraud has been investigated & turned up nothing. Voter fraud is NOT a problem. Voter suppression is a much larger issue.
And while I'm occasionally mistaken, I'm correct infinitely more than you. It is not worth comparing. As I often say, I am very tired of being right so much.
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was that ^^^^ suppose to make sense?
Let's hypothetical argue here.
So say there was more votes at a precinct, any precinct than there were registered voters at that precinct? which there were in multiple cases. That CANT happen if the poll workers are checking their lists. So right up front we have corruption at point of voting, by the poll minders.
If you vote you know you go in, look over a large printout of voter names and addresses and then spout yours, they check a little box hand you your ballot away you go.
You could simply memorize one of the names and addresses next to yours, and send someone in to vote under that name.
Or really even just look at the names while waiting your turn and then announce one of them when it was your turn.
If they are not checking ID's that's kind of a no brainer.
now I don't happen to think it's widespread because it isn't, but neither is cashing someone else's check but we need an ID to cash our checks. Which in turn keeps in "not wide spread", nearly impossible.
And what responsible person doesn't have an ID? Do we want people without ID's to vote? seriously?
Airstrip One
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HILLARY BY A LANDSLIDE!!!
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Said no one named Thing1 ever.
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I should qualify that - I did think she'd win going away prior to the Comey letter.
And she likely would have.
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That's cool. And I would like to say of voter suppression, that it's only a bigger problem than fraud if you think dead people and non-citizens are being treated unfairly.
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Nah; you measure the size of the problem by how many votes it affects. There is much more empirical evidence that votes have been lost to voter suppression efforts than there is for any widescale voter fraud that is significant enough to influence an election.
"She likely would have"?
You have no way of proving that but you'll keep claiming it as if you do.
Corruption by POTUS at the time Obama
Changed laws & rules to benefit demcrats
Still lost to silent majority can't accept the truth hurts
desnt it . Democrats lost big time get used to it looser !!!
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Voter suppression or the people claiming that being too fucking lazy to get off their asses to get an ID.
My state offered a free ID AND a ride to get it to the approximately 170,000 that didn't have one meeting the voter ID laws. ONLY 25 accepted. How many of the remaining 169,975 complain about being a suppressed voter? How many like you claim they were suppressed? I know the answer as to how many were suppressed. Do you?
The same ID many of them use to get their social welfare handouts is the same ID that can be used to vote. If the ID laws changed as to what type of ID was needed in order to get social welfare, they'd camp out for days in order to get one.