Hey BAC! Can you BELIEVE that this guy thinks Obama is a Black President?

Darla said:
I don't have the answers for any of this stuff. No one could have been happier than me to see the back of that frigging lunatic, bush. Obama seems sincere and real. It seems to me that I can hardly believe this is the same country, that i lived in after sept 11th. You could never have convinced me even four years ago that that country, was going to elect a black man, with the name Barack Hussein (Saddam) Obama (Osama). I almost feel as if it's surreal. I don't feel like a complete freak in my own country anymore.

But, is Obama going to change sentencing guidlines and make our justice system more fair? I don't know. I want him to. Is this the end of racism? Jesus Christ, no way! But, as someone who comes from a racist family, and who has always felt outnumbered, and out of place, to know that there are now more of me, than there are of them? That feels good. I am just waiting to see what kind of President he's going to be. Maybe he really is going to be transformative, in that, he's not going to worry about winning the argument, about making the opposition eat dirt, about making anyone admit who was right. Maybe he is just going to get shit done. Or maybe he's a big fraud. Or maybe, he's something in between. I don't know and I don't think that anyone really does right now.

I just wanted to be happy for a few days, and I really was. I think a lot of people really just wanted that.
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As you know quite well, most women supported Hillary Clinton because they knew she would have an affinity for womens issues. The only way Obama won them over was by assuring them that he would be just as dilligent in addressing their issues.

I have sons and any chance encouter with the policve may end in their death .. even if they comply with orders .. because of the color of their skin, and that is just as true of my Obama-like son.

PLEASE tell me how the expectations of black America for Obama to address critical issues important to them is any different than what women would expect of a woman president, or what Jews would expect of a Jewish president, or what gays would expect of any president?
 
blackascoal said:
Dude, you kill yourself .. you should get smarter.

Black America's Opposition to the Iraq War

St. Louis Post Dispatch national correspondent Ron Harris talks with Farai Chideya about why a large majority of African Americans oppose the invasion and occupation of Iraq. A recent poll suggests nine out of 10 black Americans are against the war.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4976905

You're quite often just too damn easy to spank.
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You are serioulsy DUMB. Are you under some goddamn illusion that because Obama has black skin all black people should support him? Did your grandpappy tell you we were a monolithic people who not only all look alike but think alike?
 
Yurt said:
You are serioulsy DUMB. Are you under some goddamn illusion that because Obama has black skin all black people should support him? Did your grandpappy tell you we were a monolithic people who not only all look alike but think alike?
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Frankly, I've had my fill of ignorance for one day.

NINE OUT OF TEN comprises a VAST majority. Thus, makes my point.

If you weren't a peanut, you'd recognize I never said the majority of blacks did not support Obama. In fact, 9 out of 10 did .. thus it would be correct to say that blacks supported Obama, just as its correct to say that blacks did not support the Iraq war.

The argument is whether I have the right and ability to judge the commitment of Obama to black issues
 
it is not correct, not all blacks supported obama and not all blacks were against the war...you are grouping all because of a majority and that is factually not true. i told you that you generalize too much
 
blackascoal said:
As you know quite well, most women supported Hillary Clinton because they knew she would have an affinity for womens issues. The only way Obama won them over was by assuring them that he would be just as dilligent in addressing their issues.

I have sons and any chance encouter with the policve may end in their death .. even if they comply with orders .. because of the color of their skin, and that is just as true of my Obama-like son.

PLEASE tell me how the expectations of black America for Obama to address critical issues important to them is any different than what women would expect of a woman president, or what Jews would expect of a Jewish president, or what gays would expect of any president?
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I don't think it is any different. I just don't yet feel that I know that he isn't going to move on these things. I hope he does.
 
blackascoal said:
I am so full of this kind of shit I'm thinking about doing something else with my time other than trytng to share honest perspectives and opinions with braindead people. I left that other site for good because they believe it OK to toss the word nigger around .. then I come here and this creepy bastard tries to school me about black people.

I haven't spent one second here trying to tell white people what they should do or pretend I know everything about white culture.

Son of a bitch.
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It seems to me that we all have our histories and experiences that we take to everything we do, from where we live to what studies and ideas interest us, even message boards. It's part of what we think, how we think, and whether or not we are racists, accepting of others, curious to understand other perspectives, etc.

Granted there are plenty of people that were raised with a boatload of hate put into their heads from the time they were crawling, that somehow rise above it. I mean who doesn't think those kids named after Hitler and some Nazis are going to be messed up? Yet, we all know it possible that one of those three could shock us 20 years from now.

There are times that I get utterly pissed off by what I read here and other places, especially when people I consider 'thinkers' chime in and say they agree. Sort of like you just got pissed off at me. Often I just ignore what they say, as I'm not keen on getting into arguments with more than one or two at a time. However it seems to me that whether we are looking at race, political ideologies, or partisan issues, we often are talking past one another. Seldom does anyone, including myself, state what they see as important being twisted or flat out wrong. It's easier to ignore or call names or attribute meanness or ignorance onto others.
 
the sad part is smart black people folding the tent before Obama's first week. Yeah, you really should treat Obama different than all the white politicians who ran to the center and promised things outside their main cause. LOFL
Can a Brother catch a break. Your not making me believe this former community organizer isn't going to be the best thing for the black community since Joe Louis. Let the man take a few pitches before the incessant whinning about no homers.
 
Ever wonder why more African-Americans don't participate in forums like these?

With my wife's help, I recognize my folly.

Here I am trying to explain black consciousness to people who have no understanding of its importance as a survival mechanism through all these years of hate and oppression. My bad.

What was I thinking?

Going forward I'll stick to issues most will understand and avoid discussions of race.
 
blackascoal said:
Ever wonder why more African-Americans don't participate in forums like these?

With my wife's help, I recognize my folly.

Here I am trying to explain black consciousness to people who have no understanding of its importance as a survival mechanism through all these years of hate and oppression. My bad.

What was I thinking?

Going forward I'll stick to issues most will understand and avoid discussions of race.
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Unless one is black, how could they understand black consciousness? Does that mean there can be no discussion, disagreement, or agreement?
 
wow don't get your panties in a bunch.
I can see why you would ASSUME failure before the plan even gets into affect.
Is this some 'I'm soo smart a black guy I don't support Obama".
Even though more black people support Obama than any group has EVER supported anyone. Yeah, the rest of those brothers and sisters 92% are much dumber than you.
Piece out
BAC you need some herb
it's Da healing of Da Nation
 
He is the president of the UNITED states. Not the president of black America. Id expect him to address all issues even evenhandedly.
 
Topspin said:
wow don't get your panties in a bunch.
I can see why you would ASSUME failure before the plan even gets into affect.
Is this some 'I'm soo smart a black guy I don't support Obama".
Even though more black people support Obama than any group has EVER supported anyone. Yeah, the rest of those brothers and sisters 92% are much dumber than you.
Piece out
BAC you need some herb
it's Da healing of Da Nation
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you racist...just because he is black DOES NOT mean has to support obama, shit, you just proved many of his points right with this idiotic post
 
blackascoal said:
You are serioulsy DUMB. Are you under some goddamn illusion that because Obama has black skin all black people should support him? Did your grandpappy tell you we were a monolithic people who not only all look alike but think alike?

How old are you?

Who is Black America’s Moral Emissary to the World?

The global reputation of Black America has suffered greatly under George Bush, who deployed Black faces as fronts for his vicious brand of U.S. imperialism. Barack Obama's silence on the Israeli assault on Gaza suggests that his honeymoon with the planet won't last long. So who is to represent the progressive values of African Americans on the world stage? "Thanks to Cynthia McKinney, millions of Arabs have been made aware of a different Black America, one that is not silent, like Barack Obama, in the face of a purposely inflicted human rights catastrophe."
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1&limit=14&limitstart=14

The Soul of Barack Obama: Part 1 - Not My President

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 8:36.

Barack Obama has sold his soul. Okay… let me be more specific… he has sold the “Black” part of his soul in his bid to gain the presidency of the United States of America.
http://afrospear.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/the-soul-of-barack-obama-part-1/

I could post a 1000 such articles from black people who question Obama's commitment to black issues .. you dumb asshole.

Oh massa' cain't we po' negroes be allowed to form our own konklusions?

Ain't (eb) we free enough to at least do that massa'?

Get the fuck outta here with your racist paternalistic bullshit.
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I am not being paternalistic. I am just laffing at how ignorant you and whoa boy! thousands of other black people are being because he picked several jews to work for him (can't have them kikes working in the whitehouse huh?) and he is attempting to be the president of the United States of America. I was unaware that he was supposed to be the president of black america first. The fact that you say there are thousands of black voices that sound like yours when there are roughly 40 million black americas does not sway me in the least to your view that he is not black and it is not just about skin color. You are the one trying to reduce this to the lowest common denominator.
 
blackascoal said:
The saddest part about this is having to listen to white people who've had no hand in the struggles of African-Americans suddenly feel so empowered that they presume themselves to admonish black people about Obama.

That racism you speak of .. I've lived it, so did my father and mother. I don't need an asshole like Soc to tell me.

Then claim joy to the world, racism is dead.

Son of a bitch is this bizzarro world?
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I make no such claim at all you simpleton fuck! I know that racism is still alive and well in america. One need only look to the shooting by the BART officer to know that. But you want us to believe that because Obama is not toting JUST the black man's water, that he has chosen to lead a country and not just a small group of people, that makes him some how less black than he is. You are the one doing EXACTLY what I pointed out in an earlier post, he refuses to be just like you so "he ain't black enough."
 
I don't pretend for one instant to know about black people's plight in past or present day America. My black friends are much more conservative than Obama and in fact most didn't vote for him because of that. I can realize, though, why BAC doesn't like the direction Obama seems to be taking having read his posts over the past year or so. I don't see the big deal here.

Keep pointing things out BAC. It is interesting to read your viewpoint.
 
blackascoal said:
The saddest part about this is having to listen to white people who've had no hand in the struggles of African-Americans suddenly feel so empowered that they presume themselves to admonish black people about Obama.

That racism you speak of .. I've lived it, so did my father and mother. I don't need an asshole like Soc to tell me.

Then claim joy to the world, racism is dead.

Son of a bitch is this bizzarro world?
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This is interesting, you know I remember a very early quote from a white woman who when asked why are you supporting Obama, she sort of thought about it for a moment and then said: "Um, I guess it's because he's the first black person running for president that doesn't make whites feel guilty"

For some lefty whites, Obama is the final expunging or cleansing they need for any lingering guilt they have over the past. I mean obviously Obama is a great speaker and people are angry at Repubs, but guilt plays into it too.
 
KingCondanomation said:
This is interesting, you know I remember a very early quote from a white woman who when asked why are you supporting Obama, she sort of thought about it for a moment and then said: "Um, I guess it's because he's the first black person running for president that doesn't make whites feel guilty"

For some lefty whites, Obama is the final expunging or cleansing they need for any lingering guilt they have over the past. I mean obviously Obama is a great speaker and people are angry at Repubs, but guilt plays into it too.
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Revenge of the Danedote.

I know this one white guy that voted for Obama because Obama isn't a very good bowler. I mean, obviously Obama is a great speaker and people are angry at Republicans, but bowling plays into it too.
 
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