Heart attack or asphyxiation?

Dutch Uncle said:
It's up to a jury, but I think Officer Chauvin showed a complete disregard for the health of his victim: Officer Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck for "8 minutes and 46 seconds, with 2 minutes and 53 seconds of that occurring after Floyd was unresponsive." A jury will now figure it out, but IMO, that's unacceptable behavior on the part of the police since it's excessive force.
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Unlike Black people....he will face a jury of his peers who will acquit him.........

he should face a jury of George's peers
 
TTQ64 said:
or she was ok with his corruption, dirt and brutality when the cameras weren't rolling.

I have no sympathy for her. You know if you are married to a racist fuck.
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I have no sympathy for your Husband/boyfriend then either. He must know your a racist fuck, how can he not. So fuck him too and the silly ass Nation of Islam Yakub bean pie powered Beam ship he flew in on! ;)
 
ExpressLane said:
He didn't have his hand in his pocket. He had dark gloves on and it made his hand blend in with his pants color . It just looked like it was in his pocket on the video. Watch it again.
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He was mocking him, saying repeatedly, “get up, get up” while three officers had him pinned down.
 
Stone said:
I have no sympathy for your Husband/boyfriend then either. He must knowour a racist fuck, how can he not. So fuck him too and the silly ass Nation of Islam Yakub bean pie powered Beam ship he flew in on! ;)
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I thought you were too busy thinking about yourself to care what others do? I guess it depends on the circumstances. Isn’t it ironic.
 
Phantasmal said:
He was mocking him, saying repeatedly, “get up, get up” while three officers had him pinned down.
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Feeds into the theory I posted earlier that he MAY have thought he was faking as a ploy to avoid jail right then. Just a guess though and could very well be wrong.
 
When your brain isn't getting enough blood the body can have a oxygen starvation sensation even if oxygen is going in and out of the lungs. The BRAIN still senses a lack of oxygen. That may be the reason Floyd could say "I can't breath". He was inhaling and exhaling but the oxygen wasn't reaching his brain in sufficient amounts. Then he passed out and died.
 
TTQ64 said:


white supremacy is burning down Black and Brown business during peaceful protest.[/B]


They have been arrested.........contact tracing in affect.
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white supremacy? It seems like black people are burning down black and brown businesses.

One thing I do like here is that Asians are now lumped in with the whites hopefully they begin voting the same way.
 
Phantasmal said:
He was mocking him, saying repeatedly, “get up, get up” while three officers had him pinned down.
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So again what did people want? He did the act and in 2-3 days he was charged with murder. Thats pretty fast. The only thing faster would have been summary execution.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
So what is your whole point here? You virtue-signal about naughty, naughty cops, and then try to put the blame on this man's death on "natural causes."

And you all wonder why the rest of us see you as racists.
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Give up. Pour another cup of joe, sit back and read this entire thread to understand what I've been saying all along.
 
Stone said:
Feeds into the theory I posted earlier that he MAY have thought he was faking as a ploy to avoid jail right then. Just a guess though and could very well be wrong.
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It’s not the way a policeman should act, he continued to kneel on Floyd’s neck after he was told he had no pulse. He’s a murderer.
 
Stretch said:
We don't know how much pressure was being exerted. People having a heart attack complain of "not being able to breathe."
It doesn't mean their nose is clogged up or their throat area is constricted. It's a painful sharp constriction from
their chest (or even back) area every time they try to take a breath. He was clearly and loudly moaning from pain each time
he exhaled. If the shortness of breath was from his neck area and windpipe he couldn't have been vocal.
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If Floyd had died from a Heat Attack his autopsy would have shown it. It did not.
 
TTQ64 said:
he even dug his knee even further into this neck........its right on the video............with his hand in his pocket.
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Trolls are out in force this morning. Read the entire thread, read the Probable Cause Report, watch the videos and get things in context.
 
tsuke said:
So again what did people want? He did the act and in 2-3 days he was charged with murder. Thats pretty fast. The only thing faster would have been summary execution.
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They want the other arrested. Funny, non cops are arrested on the spot, then the crime is investigated, why aren’t cops treated the same way? This is part of the injustice.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
If you lay a person face down and hold them down with enough pressure, the rib cage is unable to expand and thus the lungs cannot take in oxygen. Most police depts. do not recommend leaving a cuffed suspect face down, with or without pressure.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/us/george-floyd-knee-to-neck-excessive-force-trnd/index.html
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Patients with Covid are actually intentionally placed on their stomachs so they can breathe better. There is
more lung tissue on the back and sides of our bodies. He was a heavy man. It would be harder to breathe with
the weight of his midsection pressing down on him.
 
Stretch said:
Patients with Covid are actually intentionally placed on their stomachs so they can breathe better. There is
more lung tissue on the back and sides of our bodies. He was a heavy man. It would be harder to breathe with
the weight of his midsection pressing down on him.
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They are placed on their backs to allow fluids to more easily drain from the mouth rather than collect in the lungs' bases. The respiratory therapists do not then hold them down to make them stay that way. There's a big difference between sleeping on your stomach as many do, on a soft bed -- and lying on a hard surface face down with pressure being applied to keep you that way. Try it sometime and see.
 
ExpressLane said:
When your brain isn't getting enough blood the body can have a oxygen starvation sensation even if oxygen is going in and out of the lungs. The BRAIN still senses a lack of oxygen. That may be the reason Floyd could say "I can't breath". He was inhaling and exhaling but the oxygen wasn't reaching his brain in sufficient amounts. Then he passed out and died.
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Thus the report says the possible cardiac event. This would make sense because he was
complaining of breathing difficulty (twice mentioned) while he was standing up.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
They are placed on their backs to allow fluids to more easily drain from the mouth rather than collect in the lungs' bases. The respiratory therapists do not then hold them down to make them stay that way. There's a big difference between sleeping on your stomach as many do, on a soft bed -- and lying on a hard surface face down with pressure being applied to keep you that way. Try it sometime and see.
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They also aren’t handcuffed with their hands behind their back, big difference. It is usually the practice to turn the perp on their side if you have them handcuffed on the ground for an extended period of time.
 
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