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That process would sure save money for cities Police and Fire department agencies.
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Health Insurance Plans to Rise More than 80%.... Democrats SHOCKED!
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That process would sure save money for cities Police and Fire department agencies.
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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Regardless of your warped worldview, this is how our system works. Capitalists provide a product or service based on demand, and price is established based on cost to provide. Price is never determined on outcome. IF I sell you a dozen eggs, and they spoil before you eat them, you are not entitled to a refund. If I sell you a Lexus and you drive it into the lake, you don't get your money back. The Lexus doesn't cost you less money if you tell me you intend to drive it in a lake, and I am not obligated to sell it to you for less because of this.
You keep talking about "gouging" and "greed" as if capitalism operates in a vacuum. It doesn't. There are other capitalists out there, looking to capitalize on a need, if the need is a capitalist who doesn't "gouge" and isn't "greedy" that's what the capitalist will provide, and he will be wildly successful in the endeavor. It's called FREE MARKET capitalism. It means you are FREE to go out there and provide a better service or product, whether that means lower cost, better service, more availability, wider selection, or whatever else the consumer wants and demands. This ability to FREELY compete, eliminates excessive "gouging" or "greed" because another capitalist will capitalize.
Now... the Socialist system you want, doesn't provide for this competition at all, it is solely controlled by a central government agency and we get whatever we get. If we're not happy about it... tough shit. No one is going to come along and offer us a better deal, because you've killed free market capitalism. Since the Socialist system is the only game in town, they can become as "greedy" and "gouging" as they want to be, because they have no competition.
The things you keep mouthing about greed and gouging from capitalists, is a REALITY when you have total Socialism. It's the FREE MARKET which discourages the greed and gouging, because there is competition. Without this, you have the people who control things, and they get everything their hearts desire at the expense of the consumer, who has to settle for whatever minimum the Socialist is inclined to deliver, and if we don't like that... tough fucking shit!
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You're a fucking lunatic....they already get paid for outcomes. Fires extinguished, people protected. They don't get paid by gallon of water sprayed or number of calls taken
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Okay.... So you are a doctor, and you have a patient who has stage 4 cancer. You believe that it has been detected early enough to save the person's life, with aggressive treatment and plenty of prayer and luck, the patient may survive. Are you going to invest your time and energy trying to save this person's life, if the only way you get paid is if you are successful? Or would you calculate your odds of success and pass?
What you are suggesting is stupidity beyond our wildest dreams.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Sorry, but they certainly are not paid for outcome. A fireman makes exactly the same amount whether he puts the fire out and saves lives or not. YOU are CLEARLY the LUNATIC here.
Steelplate
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You don't think there'd be exceptions? Besides...doctors would be salaried. That also eliminates unnecessary tests and treatments and promotes patient care not trying to run a business.
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Once again, you have no clue as to what you're talking about.
They get paid BY THE HOUR WORKED, not performance.
At least you're consistant in your stupidity.
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Well...point taken, but they certainly don't get paid on a fee for service basis. They get paid a salary....when they get paid at all. Where I live, it's all volunteer.
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UH - Except for private practice, Doctors working in Hospitals are on salaries.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Many doctors are salaried now. You suggested a "pay based on outcome" scheme, now you are walking that back.
It wouldn't eliminate anything, except a doctors effort to save lives. And I am sorry, but not many doctors want to go through the process of becoming a doctor, only to have your idiot ass tell them how many patients they see per day. This isn't Mcdonalds, this isn't the portrait studio at Sears.
The more you attempt to restrict free market capitalism with doctors, the more you will see fewer people becoming doctors. What then? A mandate that certain people become doctors, whether they want to or not? Maybe we need a wing of the Defense Department to go out there with the guns and force doctors to see patients?
I'm sorry, but you are far too stupid to have any kind of intelligent conversation on this. You need to put down the socialist propaganda books, and pick up one on free market capitalism, because your brain has been polluted with nonsense.
I told you. Next he'll start making sexual references to you and start stalking you around the interwebs.
Creepy...
As far as doctors in hospitals, none of you are getting it right. While staff physicians may be on salary, most others hill for services performed.
That's the problem with right wing black/white thinking.
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Howey posted:
Just can't help yourself, HUH!!
First you whine about the picture you posted on these threads and now you just can't bring yourself to stay away.
It would appear that you're the one with the "bromance"; but unfortunetly you were never educated on gay pride, because you have no pride. :shesh:
Just can't help yourself, HUH!!
First you whine about the picture you posted on these threads and now you just can't bring yourself to stay away.
It would appear that you're the one with the "bromance"; but unfortunetly you were never educated on gay pride, because you have no pride. :shesh:
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Howey said:
Your
Butt
Fucking
Friend
Grind, asked me to please remove it; because they couldn't handle your constant whining about it, along with the threats that you would leave.
The fact that you're such a child, is embarrasing to your family.
I still like your father's facebook pictures.
Your
Butt
Fucking
Friend
Grind, asked me to please remove it; because they couldn't handle your constant whining about it, along with the threats that you would leave.
The fact that you're such a child, is embarrasing to your family.
I still like your father's facebook pictures.
Steelplate
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What? You posted his photo as your sig?
That's fucked up. No wonder you act like a douche....you are.
cancel2 2022
Canceled
Time will tell, but I'll still think I am right.
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Steelplate
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Where did he make it public?
and when obamacare is implemented in 2014, the elderly will be turned away because medicare will be cut.
if healthcare is so bad here, why do canadians still come here for life saving surgery and other procedures that they have to wait months sometimes years
in socialist Canada?
if healthcare is so bad here, why do canadians still come here for life saving surgery and other procedures that they have to wait months sometimes years
in socialist Canada?