Health Care Is Not A Right!

I don't mind kicking up some tax money for health and disease issues. But, anything to do with pregnancy, birthing and feeding of crumb-crunchers is all on the mother and father (if one can be determined).
 
domer76 said:
Jefferson was a proponent of rewriting the Constitution every 20 years so that each generation was not enslaved by the notions of the previous.
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Then set about changing it as t was meant to be changed

You still can't fund the quote I asked for

I accept your concession
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the total fucking stupidity on display by the leftists in this arena is so damned astounding. it's completely unreal. good god, we're fucking gone as a nation with you idiots running around out here spewing your statist viewpoints.
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Your lack of self-awareness is astounding. You have been completely upside down with court and SCOTUS rulings on every fucking issue. Yet, everyone else is wrong and you are correct. What a fucking blind idiot.

A 2A PUSSY to boot.
 
I Love America said:
Then set about changing it as t was meant to be changed

You still can't fund the quote I asked for

I accept your concession
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I don't need it changed, moron. It's working fine as a living document. It's you cretinous originalists that scream "unconstitutional"!

Lazy fuck. Here are your quotes:

"Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said, that the succeeding generation exercising, in fact, the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to nineteen years only."

"Each generation is as independent as the one preceding, as that was of all which had gone before. It has then, like them, a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness; consequently, to accommodate to the circumstances in which it finds itself that received from its predecessors;"

"Forty years [after a] Constitution... was formed,... two-thirds of the adults then living are... dead. Have, then, the remaining third, even if they had the wish, the right to hold in obedience to their will and to laws heretofore made by them, the other two-thirds who with themselves compose the present mass of adults? If they have not, who has? The dead? But the dead have no rights. They are nothing, and nothing can not own something. Where there is no substance, there can be no accident [i.e., attribute]."

Checkmate, motherfucker.
 
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domer76 said:
Your lack of self-awareness is astounding. You have been completely upside down with court and SCOTUS rulings on every fucking issue. Yet, everyone else is wrong and you are correct. What a fucking blind idiot.

A 2A PUSSY to boot.
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you have succeeded in becoming an even bigger moron than desh. I truly did not think that was possible. congrats.
 
blackascoal said:
Most certainly not from your side of the fence.

Leftists / liberals .. same side of the fence.
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Some of those so-called liberals would be mortified as some of the recent court rulings.

The founders were 'liberal' in the classical sense of the term. Modern liberals are socialists-leftists.
 
philly rabbit said:
This is one topic that I completely agree with Ron Paul on while disagreeing with the president, that being the ever growing, tax draining monster called health care. The republicans didn't replace Obama care with a better plan because there is no better plan. Both parties have this belief in their heads that health care is the responsibility of the federal government because health care is a right.

It is not, and under the constitution, it was never meant to be. The monster in the room will continue to grow and it's hunger for tax dollars will never cease because health care is supposed to be a right of the people.

The president should spend his term in office finding ways to slow down the growth of the monster and save billions of dollars doing it such as making cuts to both medicare and Medicaid whenever possible.
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In most of the civilized world healthcare is most certainly a right.
In fact the USA is the only country in the fucking world where it is legal for an insurance company to make a profit selling health insurance to human beings.
Almost all of humanity sees this as a moral issue, which indeed it is...
Sooooooo... FUCK YOU.
 
domer76 said:
I don't need it changed, moron. It's working fine as a living document. It's you cretinous originalists that scream "unconstitutional"!

Lazy fuck. Here are your quotes:

"Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said, that the succeeding generation exercising, in fact, the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to nineteen years only."

"Each generation is as independent as the one preceding, as that was of all which had gone before. It has then, like them, a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness; consequently, to accommodate to the circumstances in which it finds itself that received from its predecessors;"

"Forty years [after a] Constitution... was formed,... two-thirds of the adults then living are... dead. Have, then, the remaining third, even if they had the wish, the right to hold in obedience to their will and to laws heretofore made by them, the other two-thirds who with themselves compose the present mass of adults? If they have not, who has? The dead? But the dead have no rights. They are nothing, and nothing can not own something. Where there is no substance, there can be no accident [i.e., attribute]."

Checkmate, motherfucker.
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How cute. You posted a lot of words you don't understand.

He never said it was a document that would be changed willy nilly as you propose.

He said every 19 years the country should scrap it and start over.

I would be fine with that.

But that wasn't in the Constitution so therefore you are WRONG

CHECK MATE PUSSY

PS why are you afraid to debate me 1:1 in APP? Afraid of being exposed for the dumb fuck you are?

Don't worry you are in a long line of liberal pussies afraid to debate me 1:1
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
In most of the civilized world healthcare is most certainly a right.
In fact the USA is the only country in the fucking world where it is legal for an insurance company to make a profit selling health insurance to human beings.
Almost all of humanity sees this as a moral issue, which indeed it is...
Sooooooo... FUCK YOU.
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Change the Constitution then. But as of now it is not an enumerated right.

Anything you think the gobblement can give to you they can take from you

Why specifically do YOU think YOU have a right to another's property against their will ?
 
I Love America said:
How cute. You posted a lot of words you don't understand.

He never said it was a document that would be changed willy nilly as you propose.

He said every 19 years the country should scrap it and start over.

I would be fine with that.

But that wasn't in the Constitution so therefore you are WRONG

CHECK MATE PUSSY

PS why are you afraid to debate me 1:1 in APP? Afraid of being exposed for the dumb fuck you are?

Don't worry you are in a long line of liberal pussies afraid to debate me 1:1
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Cute little tactic that losing shitweasels like you employ. Put words in another's mouth and reply to those. Sorry, douchenozzle, that shit won't fly.

Nobody said anything about changing things "Willy nilly". Quit pulling garbage out of your ass and act as if it's truth.

I also never said it was in the Constitution, you fucking cretin. You asked for a quote from the founders and I provided them.

You have the intellect and comprehension skills of a 5th grader.

Why debate you there? I regularly kick your ass everywhere else.

Fucking illiterate tard.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
jesus fucking christ. how the hell do you morons live on a daily basis with such stupidity? what does the preamble state?

WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!! WE THE PEOPLE had to vote and ratify it.

who the fuck do YOU think wrote the constitution?
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I already said, dummy. "I'm a fucking idiot" signed Smarterthananematode. Did you write that? It says you did, just like the constitution said I did. But in fact, I did not, and neither did you. And neither did anyone alive.

Since "we the people" means "old landed slave owning white dudes with political juice 250 years ago." That ain't my understanding of "we."

Think the Loyalists to King George were part of we the people?
 
I Love America said:
Why specifically do YOU think YOU have a right to another's property against their will ?
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Because YOU think YOU have a right to MY property against MY will to build bombs to drop on the poor people of other countries, which by MY estimation is much less moral than MY purpose in making sure YOU pay some taxes for YOUR own healthcare. Since I have shown I am more moral than YOU, that gives ME the moral right.
 
I Love America said:
Change the Constitution then. But as of now it is not an enumerated right.

Anything you think the gobblement can give to you they can take from you

Why specifically do YOU think YOU have a right to another's property against their will ?
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All your personal avarice and greed aside...
Humanity believes that healthcare is a human right.
Scum like you are the exception.
 
Darth Omar said:
Some of those so-called liberals would be mortified as some of the recent court rulings.

The founders were 'liberal' in the classical sense of the term. Modern liberals are socialists-leftists.
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A true liberal in the classical sense would have been King George loyalists at the time... nor were they "conservatives"...
The founding fathers were radical revolutionaries you stupid fuck.
 
Micawber said:
Ridiculous. Unfamiliar with the federalist papers? Political brochure for the federalists. In large measure they won the debate at the time.
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Smarter than few thinks the constitution was delivered from Jeeeeeeesus...

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