Head of Hamas government in Gaza eliminated

[IBDaMann]

There is no genocide.

Denial, to support a special pleading fallacy, leading to an absurd conflation.

Hamas is not a signatory to the Convention.

This would be irrelevant even if Hamas were still alive. Notice how you cannot bring yourself to acknowledge that Israel is a signatory to the very convention that defines its war crimes. Your argument is as pathetic as they come.

 

[Into the Night]

Denial,

Void reference fallacy.

to support a special pleading fallacy, leading to an absurd conflation.

Fallacy fallacy.

This would be irrelevant even if Hamas were still alive.

It is, though there's not much left of it.

Notice how you cannot bring yourself to acknowledge that Israel is a signatory to the very convention that defines its war crimes. Your argument is as pathetic as they come.

What 'war crimes'???

 

[IBDaMann]

What 'war crimes'???

The ones you are denying that Israel signed up to never commit, the ones defined in the IV Geneva Convention and the Convention against Genocide to which Israel is a signatory. You are well aware that the existence of others who are not signatories to these conventions does not somehow alleviate Israel of the moral and legal obligation to adhere to these laws that they signed and ratified, laws that obligate them to behave in certain manners, and to refrain from behaving in certain manners, even with regards to those who are not signatories.

Israel is not permitted to commit war crimes against non-signatories of these Conventions, despite your belief that Israel always warrants special pleading. Israel is not permitted to launch air strikes on public population centers; that is illegal everywhere and Israel does not get any special pleading. Israel was required to actively protect every single civilian in Gaza, just as if they were actively protecting Israelis in Israel, from the moment the first ITF soldier set foot in Gaza, and to provide special protections (defined and delineated in the Conventions) to women and to children ages 14 and under, and to ensure that all civilians had access to safe shelter, food, clean water, necessary medical care and supplies, and to all other basic necessities; instead, the ITF began immediately mowing them all down indiscriminantly with helicopter gunships, including women and children to whom they were supposed to be providing special protections. The ITF committed thousands of violations of the relevant Conventions within the first few days. You are supporting an horrific genocide.

You weren't even bothered by the daily requirement to fish dozens of children out of rubble; in fact, you became angered at the idea of being deprived of this pleasure. You rebuked me for merely pointing out the ongoing body count of children that were then dead who were alive and well before the ITF began their 2nd Nakba. As the numbers became steady at hundreds of children being wasted by the ITF each and every week, all you could manage was to express how those children somehow totally deserved it. I will never join you in your desire for Arabs to be ethnically cleansed. Your pretense at ignorance that genocide before you is even occurring is sickening.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Head of Hamas government in Gaza eliminated​

What? Again? WTF? How many times does Israel have to whack this guy?

 

[Into the Night]

The ones you are denying that Israel signed up to never commit, the ones defined in the IV Geneva Convention and the Convention against Genocide to which Israel is a signatory.

Not a war crime. What war crimes???

You are well aware that the existence of others who are not signatories to these conventions does not somehow alleviate Israel of the moral and legal obligation to adhere to these laws that they signed and ratified, laws that obligate them to behave in certain manners, and to refrain from behaving in certain manners, even with regards to those who are not signatories.

Not a war crime. What war crimes???

Israel is not permitted to commit war crimes

What war crimes???

against non-signatories of these Conventions, despite your belief that Israel always warrants special pleading.

Fallacy fallacy.

Israel is not permitted to launch air strikes on public population centers;

Yes it is. They are at war.

that is illegal everywhere and Israel does not get any special pleading.

Fallacy fallacy. They are at war.

Israel was required to actively protect every single civilian in Gaza,

Dead wrong. They are at war.

just as if they were actively protecting Israelis in Israel,

They are.

from the moment the first ITF soldier set foot in Gaza, and to provide special protections (defined and delineated in the Conventions) to women and to children ages 14 and under,

Special pleading fallacy. Nothing requires them to protect anyone that is military or part of a military installation, regardless of their age.

and to ensure that all civilians had access to safe shelter, food, clean water, necessary medical care and supplies,

Not required unless they are captured.

and to all other basic necessities; instead, the ITF began immediately mowing them all down indiscriminantly with helicopter gunships, including women and children to whom they were supposed to be providing special protections. The ITF committed thousands of violations of the relevant Conventions within the first few days. You are supporting an horrific genocide.

There is no genocide. They are NOT required to protect any military target.

You weren't even bothered by the daily requirement to fish dozens of children out of rubble;

That's war. I never said I liked war.

in fact, you became angered at the idea of being deprived of this pleasure. You rebuked me for merely pointing out the ongoing body count of children that were then dead who were alive and well before the ITF began their 2nd Nakba.

Because you were making up numbers and using them as 'data'. Argument from randU fallacy.

As the numbers became steady at hundreds of children being wasted by the ITF each and every week, all you could manage was to express how those children somehow totally deserved it.

Many did. They were military.

I will never join you in your desire for Arabs to be ethnically cleansed.

There is no 'ethnic cleansing' of Arabs.

Your pretense at ignorance that genocide before you is even occurring is sickening.

There is no genocide.

 

[IBDaMann]

 

[gfm7175]

In terms of my current conjecture based on my Christianity, I wouldn't be surprised if Israel (with the assistance of the USA under Trump's leadership) eventually turns their eye towards Iran (and their nuclear capabilities) within the next couple years. I suspect that it will take a fairly major event of some sort to nudge them to do so.

@IBDaMann maybe I should have said months instead of years?

 

[IBDaMann]

@IBDaMann maybe I should have said months instead of years?

As I have mentioned many times, since 1979, Iran has been the only attacker of Israel, and Israel is painfully aware of this. Long ago, Israel turned their attention toward Iran's nuclear aspirations ... and has never waivered. You might recall that Israel keeps assassinating Iranian scientists just to be sure Iran isn't advancing towards achieving nukes. So, perhaps it would have been better to say that Israel will continue to monitor Iran's nuclear capabilities with renewed interest over the next months to years.

Now, with Trump negotiating, Iran might discover incentives for simply continuing to not have nukes.

 

[moon]

As I have mentioned many times, since 1979, Iran has been the only attacker of Israel, and Israel is painfully aware of this. Long ago, Israel turned their attention toward Iran's nuclear aspirations ... and has never waivered. You might recall that Israel keeps assassinating Iranian scientists just to be sure Iran isn't advancing towards achieving nukes. So, perhaps it would have been better to say that Israel will continue to monitor Iran's nuclear capabilities with renewed interest over the next months to years.

Now, with Trump negotiating, Iran might discover incentives for simply continuing to not have nukes.

As I have mentioned many times, since 1979, Iran has been the only attacker of Israel, and Israel is painfully aware of this. Long ago, Israel turned their attention toward Iran's nuclear aspirations ... and has never waivered. You might recall that Israel keeps assassinating Iranian scientists just to be sure Iran isn't advancing towards achieving nukes. So, perhaps it would have been better to say that Israel will continue to monitor Iran's nuclear capabilities with renewed interest over the next months to years.

Now, with Trump negotiating, Iran might discover incentives for simply continuing to not have nukes.

Horseshit ^ Israel has been attacking Iran in order to draw a response. Israel NEEDS to be attacked in order to play its ' victim ' card.
From murdering scientists and diplomats in Iran to bombing the Iranian consulate in Syria the Zionist scum have goaded the Iranians in the hope of drawing a response that the US can use to join the attack.
That is OBVIOUS to everybody. Your disinformation is simply skewed opinion.

We'll find that the sub-human pseudo-Jews will increase attacks on Iran as their credibility with Western governments and the media falters. They require victimhood in order to milk the West. It's essential to their brand of fascism.

"Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." (Anatomy of Fascism, p 218

Fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[IBDaMann]

Horseshit ^

Show that someone other that Iran (via Iran's proxies Hezbollah, Al Qassam and Islamic Jihad) has attacked Israel.

Israel has been attacking Iran in order to draw a response.

When has Israel ever invaded Iran?

Israel NEEDS to be attacked in order to play its ' victim ' card.

Nope. Israel has been playing the eternal victim since it's formation, even when they haven't been attacked or injured. Israel is currently perpetrating a genocide while screaming about being the victim.

From murdering scientists and diplomats in Iran

They aren't necessarily in Iran when they re assassinated.

We'll find that the sub-human pseudo-Jews will increase attacks on Iran as their credibility with Western governments and the media falters.

Israel has never invaded Iran, but you say that they will now?

They require victimhood in order to milk the West.

The west is easily milked by teary-eyed claims of victimhood, even when the "victim" is in the process of victimizing others.

Christians are even more susceptible to cries of victimhood by those who they believe are God's chosen people.

 

[moon]

When has Israel ever invaded Iran?

' Attacking ' and ' invading ' are not synonymous. Israel attacks Iran frequently, in one way or another.

 

[IBDaMann]

' Attacking ' and ' invading ' are not synonymous.

Then you admit to having said absolutely nothing.

Israel attacks Iran frequently, in one way or another.

Yes, every day, many times.

 

[moon]

Then you admit to having said absolutely nothing.

You have a cognition problem- and I'm not in the least interested in helping you with it. Fuck off.

 

[IBDaMann]

"Fascism may be defined as ...

Fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You have a serious cognition problem, and I'm going to help you get on the right path to address it.

First, only the author of fascism, the man who defined fascism, gets to say how fascism is defined. Giovanni Gentile happens to be long dead, but his fascism-defining document lives on. Any attempted definition of fascism that differs from the definition of fascism is wrong.

Ergo, the attempted definition you Cypressed from the internet is wrong.

Second, Wikipedia is not an authoritative source and is immediately dismissed. Ergo, your attempt to Cypress a definition from Wikipedia is summarily dismissed, although Cypress is probably flattered by your imitation.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Horseshit ^ Israel has been attacking Iran in order to draw a response. Israel NEEDS to be attacked in order to play its ' victim ' card.
From murdering scientists and diplomats in Iran to bombing the Iranian consulate in Syria the Zionist scum have goaded the Iranians in the hope of drawing a response that the US can use to join the attack.
That is OBVIOUS to everybody. Your disinformation is simply skewed opinion.

We'll find that the sub-human pseudo-Jews will increase attacks on Iran as their credibility with Western governments and the media falters. They require victimhood in order to milk the West. It's essential to their brand of fascism.

"Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." (Anatomy of Fascism, p 218

Fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The second you use terms like "sub-human pseudo-Jews" you lose the narrative. "blind loyal zionist" is a more accurate description of the yahoos pushing this garbage.

 

[moon]

You have a serious cognition problem, and I'm going to help you get on the right path to address it.

First, only the author of fascism, the man who defined fascism, gets to say how fascism is defined. Giovanni Gentile happens to be long dead, but his fascism-defining document lives on. Any attempted definition of fascism that differs from the definition of fascism is wrong.

Ergo, the attempted definition you Cypressed from the internet is wrong.

Second, Wikipedia is not an authoritative source and is immediately dismissed. Ergo, your attempt to Cypress a definition from Wikipedia is summarily dismissed, although Cypress is probably flattered by your imitation.

You're an attention-seeking blowhard. Fuck off.

 

[IBDaMann]

You're an attention-seeking blowhard. Fuck off.

You're a moron who needs serious therapy ... and some serious education about the UN ... and of the English language.

 

[moon]

The second you use terms like "sub-human pseudo-Jews" you lose the narrative. "blind loyal zionist" is a more accurate description of the yahoos pushing this garbage.

Those that commit sub-human crimes are sub-humans...and Israel's fascist Jews are such criminals, just as the worst of the criminals of the Third Reich were sub-human. If the narrative is lost on you I believe you should look closer at the ongoing genocide- ' unbelievable ' as it may appear.

 

[moon]

You're a moron who needs serious therapy ... and some serious education about the UN ... and of the English language.

I'm content to watch you posing as a educator in both. Now fuck off.

Haw, haw........................................haw.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Those that commit sub-human crimes are sub-humans...and Israel's fascist Jews are such criminals, just as the worst of the criminals of the Third Reich were sub-human. If the narrative is lost on you I believe you should look closer at the ongoing genocide- ' unbelievable ' as it may appear.

Just to clear the air: I get what you're saying .... I'm just pointing out that they way you say it infers that ALL Jews in Israel are on board with Yahoo and his disgusting Likund thugs. That is NOT the case, as prior to Oct. 7th they were about to be voted out on their collective butts! Check out the radio broadcast "Beyond the Pale" on Pacifica Broadcast networks ( WBA! 99.5 FM in New York).