happy Holidays everyone!

leaningright said:
I don't care what people celebrate this time of year....I'm just glad they do. As a Christian I don't celebrate Christmas as Christ's birthday...I know it is a hijacked date and celebration. The Bible doesn't tell me to celebrate/remember His birth anyway. I won't condemn someone doing it though...not will I condemn Kwanza or Hanukah. I love this time of year. Made fudge, divinity and pecan caramel last night .... Brought some to the elementary teachers today. Will package & take the rest with some fruit around to the old folks in my town later this week. Fun stuff...to me anyway.
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Well said. Enjoy your holidays.
 
Southern Man said:
Actually, Again, September isn't a better estimate than December.

And again, the early Church converted pagans to save their souls. Kwanza was invented to make dough for the founder who invented it. It also was created to encourage racism, as the founder was racist.
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Actually, again, September is determined using biblical passages and known dates. So it is, in fact, a better estimate. Because there is no evidence at all of December being the date of the birth of Jesus.

And whether the originator of Kwanza started out to make money or to fulfill a need of a displaced people is not relevant. It does, in fact, fulfill a need for a holiday for a displaced people.

Your continued condemnation of the holiday, while ignoring the facts about the Xmas holiday shows your own hypocrisy.
 
WinterBorn said:
Actually, again, September is determined using biblical passages and known dates. So it is, in fact, a better estimate. Because there is no evidence at all of December being the date of the birth of Jesus.

And whether the originator of Kwanza started out to make money or to fulfill a need of a displaced people is not relevant. It does, in fact, fulfill a need for a holiday for a displaced people.

Your continued condemnation of the holiday, while ignoring the facts about the Xmas holiday shows your own hypocrisy.
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The September date is no better than the April Estimate; December is right in the middle of both.

Kwanzaa wasn't created to fill the needs of displaced people, but to separate them from whites.
 
Southern Man said:
The September date is no better than the April Estimate; December is right in the middle of both.

Kwanzaa wasn't created to fill the needs of displaced people, but to separate them from whites.
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And the December celebration of the birth of Jesus was created to let pagans continue to have their holidays. Right in the middle?? LMAO! You actually use that as justification? I have seen estimates for April, July and sept. Now you say its "right in the middle"? :good4u:

Your projection of the "intent" of Kwanza is amusing.
 
For more than 2000 years human societies and cultures have celebrated at the end of December around the time of the winter solstace. The "reason" has been adultrated adopted and used by many groups... the celebration still exists and I like celebrations!
 
WinterBorn said:
And the December celebration of the birth of Jesus was created to let pagans continue to have their holidays. Right in the middle?? LMAO! You actually use that as justification? I have seen estimates for April, July and sept. Now you say its "right in the middle"? :good4u:

Your projection of the "intent" of Kwanza is amusing.
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Again, Christians converted pagans in creative ways to save their souls. Kwanzaa was created by a racist to segregate races. Your attempt at ridicule indicates your desperation.
 
Damocles said:
No they don't. What do they say?

Merry (fill in the blank)...
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No X-MAS means Christmas, its the greek abbreviation that became popular in the 13th century and is still commonly used today. X was the Greek simbol for Christ.
 
Hey Damo, we had a really good discussion in class at church last night on Buddism and other world religions. I was pleased to see many of the folks were well informed. It helped that several in the congregation know some Buddists...gives them a frame of reference.
 
leaningright said:
Hey Damo, we had a really good discussion in class at church last night on Buddism and other world religions. I was pleased to see many of the folks were well informed. It helped that several in the congregation know some Buddists...gives them a frame of reference.
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Excellent. I hope the discussion didn't range into the "evils" of Buddhism as it would have in so many churches, but it doesn't appear that it did.

I'm glad that your congregation is well-informed, there are few out there that even bother to learn anything about it.
 
Yes, it was a very good, positive discussion. I love stuff like that. Makes the 45 minute class seem like 10 minutes.
 
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