Hamas totally out-negotiated Trump

[Dutch Uncle]

Oh, brother

Fail

I'm sure the MAGAts liked it....but they're too weak and cowardly to admit it. LOL

 

[Phantasmal]

LOL I'm a big fan of free will as you know. While our upbringing and experiences help define us, all normal adults still have choices in what we believe and how we conduct ourselves. The mentally ill and intellectually deficient, not so much.

I did a lot of research dating and marrying a Vietnam vet. Hard wiring is very much a thing with Vets, especially those who saw combat. PTSD is fascinating and I wanted to try to understand his experiences.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Yet the Brits ruled the territory, along with other former Ottoman lands, for how many decades? Same for the French.

What did it take for the Indians to free themselves from the British yoke of oppression?

and they called it Palestine.

 

[Nomad]

Poor little scumbag - utterly devastated that peace has come.



I know, right?

I mean he got the hostages released and brought PEACE.

You and your fellow vermin of Team Evil are ENRAGED!!!



ROFL

Oh, the guy who staged an attempted coupe against his duly elected successor?



What makes us hypocrites? There was never one one millionth the vitriol pointed at your little gay god than you personally spew against Trump.

The only other time I've seen this level of hatred and rage was against Reagan as he dismantled your beloved Soviet Union.



It isn't possible for you to hate more deeply than you already do. You are nothing other than hatred and rage - there is literally nothing else to you.

Oh, and Blessed in the Peacemaker, Donald Trump.

Have a nice temper tantrum.

WAAAAHHHHHH SOB SOB indeed, little one.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I did a lot of research dating and marrying a Vietnam vet. Hard wiring is very much a thing with Vets, especially those who saw combat. PTSD is fascinating and I wanted to try to understand his experiences.

PTSD is a mental illness. My dad had it too. Mostly after his second tour in Vietnam. He was the X0 then CO of an Army aviation squadron and lost a few people plus had the shit scared out of himself a few times too. He never sought treatment since he'd lived with it for about over 20 years before it was recognized as a psychological issue. As the Mayo Clinic link mentions, it comes in four types and varies by the individual.

18 question test takes about 3 minutes:

ITQ - International Trauma Questionnaire

The International Trauma Questionnaire (ITQ) is an 18-item self-report measure designed to assess symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and

novopsych.com

Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) - Symptoms and causes

www.mayoclinic.org

Post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms may start within the first three months after a traumatic event. But sometimes symptoms may not appear until years after the event. These symptoms last more than one month and cause major problems in social or work situations and how well you get along with others. They also can affect your ability to do your usual daily tasks.

Generally, PTSD symptoms are grouped into four types: intrusive memories, avoidance, negative changes in thinking and mood, and changes in physical and emotional reactions. Symptoms can vary over time or vary from person to person.

 

[martin]

Different dimensions in what way?

Bigotry has the same ugly face no matter what or where it originates. Scapegoating Jews in Europe goes back almost 2000 years. Unscrupulous leaders make use of such bigotry to achieve their aims. Hitler used the Jews. Trump illegals. While intellectual people are not as easily persuaded, a nation's poorly educated are more easily manipulated. This also explains why wannabe dictators go after the intellectuals along with their scapegoats.

The anti German prejudice died away when the war ended. The bigotry against Jews is eternal.

 

[Nordberg]

Hamas got what could be 2000 soldiers back. I hope the Israelis did not abuse them too much. Israel has destroyed Gaza; over 90 percent of buildings were leveled. I doubt those who lived through that will feel nice toward Israel.

 

[Earl]

Bergdahl was a Taliban prisoner because he DESERTED

According to soldiers involved in the effort to find Bergdahl, at least six soldiers from his battalion were killed during the search.

And the five Taliban prisoners that Obama released were HIGH RISK including two that were responsible for MASS MURDERS

So yes MAGA is right . Obama made a shitty trade.

Indeed and Obama honored the traitor, Bergdahl and his father in the Rose Garden.

 

[FastLane]

Hamas got what could be 2000 soldiers back. I hope the Israelis did not abuse them too much. Israel has destroyed Gaza; over 90 percent of buildings were leveled. I doubt those who lived through that will feel nice toward Israel.

It is so great the you are concerned about Hamas but not about 20 innocent Israeli citizens

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The anti German prejudice died away when the war ended. The bigotry against Jews is eternal.

Bigotry against Jews has been culturally induced for a couple of millennia. Germans only came from the 20th century's two world wars.

Culture seems to be very difficult and time-consuming to change. Racial bias in the US being an example. The longer it's been in the culture, the longer it seems to be to eliminate.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hamas got what could be 2000 soldiers back. I hope the Israelis did not abuse them too much. Israel has destroyed Gaza; over 90 percent of buildings were leveled. I doubt those who lived through that will feel nice toward Israel.

Trump needs to restock all of Bibi's weapons now before the Palestinians start terrorizing again so he can look good by "cutting Bibi off" afterwards. He doesn't want to screw up his chances of winning the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize. LOL

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

PTSD is a mental illness. My dad had it too. Mostly after his second tour in Vietnam. He was the X0 then CO of an Army aviation squadron and lost a few people plus had the shit scared out of himself a few times too. He never sought treatment since he'd lived with it for about over 20 years before it was recognized as a psychological issue. As the Mayo Clinic link mentions, it comes in four types and varies by the individual.

18 question test takes about 3 minutes:

ITQ - International Trauma Questionnaire

The International Trauma Questionnaire (ITQ) is an 18-item self-report measure designed to assess symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and

novopsych.com

Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) - Symptoms and causes

www.mayoclinic.org

Post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms may start within the first three months after a traumatic event. But sometimes symptoms may not appear until years after the event. These symptoms last more than one month and cause major problems in social or work situations and how well you get along with others. They also can affect your ability to do your usual daily tasks.

Generally, PTSD symptoms are grouped into four types: intrusive memories, avoidance, negative changes in thinking and mood, and changes in physical and emotional reactions. Symptoms can vary over time or vary from person to person.

of course, the satanists use trauma of all kinds to cause dissociative disorder, split personality, and trauma bonding in it's victims, as you well know.

see mk ultra, monarch programming, satanic panic, intergenerational sexual abuse in elite bloodlines.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

So long as Palestinians, whether supporters of Hamas or the supposedly more “moderate” Fatah Party that runs the corrupt Palestinian Authority, still believe that their national identity is inextricably linked to a war on the Jews and Zionism, all the Trumpian optimism in the world won’t matter.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

I probably shouldn’t admit I haven’t followed this very closely. I know there’s the broader U.S. and Trump negotiated peace plan, and then there’s the Israeli government negotiated hostage release. This thread feels like it’s mostly trolling about the hostage deal.

I get what you’re saying about how it’s being framed, but I don’t watch the nightly news so I can’t speak to that part.

this contribution to the thread rates below zero.

please do better.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

So long as Palestinians, whether supporters of Hamas or the supposedly more “moderate” Fatah Party that runs the corrupt Palestinian Authority, still believe that their national identity is inextricably linked to a war on the Jews and Zionism, all the Trumpian optimism in the world won’t matter.

why do you hate peace tho?

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Most of what was the British mandate was the newly created nation of Jordan.

but a part of it is was what is known as palestine.

this historical revisionism hurts your cause.

unnecessary lying is .... unnecessary.

why do it?

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Since the start of the war, Israel has released over 4,000 terrorists, including almost 1,000 serving life sentences. Experts point out that the consistent pattern of release of terrorists in exchange for hostages has solidified a clear incentive for the taking of Israeli hostages and is likely to lead to future hostage takings in the future.

“Oct. 7 is the direct result of a hostage ransom that was paid for Gilad Shalit, and I see no reason why this new hostage ransom should not lead to something similar,” Sherman explained.

https://www.jns.org/israel-far-from-victory-in-gaza-experts-warn/

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Since the start of the war, Israel has released over 4,000 terrorists, including almost 1,000 serving life sentences. Experts point out that the consistent pattern of release of terrorists in exchange for hostages has solidified a clear incentive for the taking of Israeli hostages and is likely to lead to future hostage takings in the future.

“Oct. 7 is the direct result of a hostage ransom that was paid for Gilad Shalit, and I see no reason why this new hostage ransom should not lead to something similar,” Sherman explained.

https://www.jns.org/israel-far-from-victory-in-gaza-experts-warn/

maybe valuing one Israeli life to thousands of the lives of others is an example of racism backfiring?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Since the start of the war, Israel has released over 4,000 terrorists, including almost 1,000 serving life sentences. Experts point out that the consistent pattern of release of terrorists in exchange for hostages has solidified a clear incentive for the taking of Israeli hostages and is likely to lead to future hostage takings in the future.

“Oct. 7 is the direct result of a hostage ransom that was paid for Gilad Shalit, and I see no reason why this new hostage ransom should not lead to something similar,” Sherman explained.

https://www.jns.org/israel-far-from-victory-in-gaza-experts-warn/

Agreed; never negotiate with terrorists. It's giving into blackmail. Just put them down like the rabid dogs they are.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Yes

trump believes in equal opportunity deportation.

thank you MLK and others.