Hamas totally out-negotiated Trump

Cypress said:
That is not how this works.
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It usually is, Cyborg. T.A. Gardner has made a perfectly valid point. Argument of the Stone fallacy.
Cypress said:
Trump has claimed credit.
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Well deserved.
Cypress said:
Trump boot-lickers have been heaping the credit on their orange Messiah.
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What boots? Who is this 'Orange Messiah'?? There is no user here by that name.
Cypress said:
You can't backtrack now and say Trump is an innocent bystander
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He isn't. He acted.
Cypress said:
who had nothing to do with trading 20 college students for 2,000 Palestinian prisoners.
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He certainly did. Ignoring history never works, Cyborg.
 
Cypress said:
20 college students for two thousand Palestinian prisoners is a deal Hamas would take any day of the week, and twice on Ramadan.
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Irrelevant. Not much left of Hamas.
Cypress said:
Hamas hasn't agreed to disarm or cede authority to Trump's proposed international commission.
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Hamas lost the war, Cyborg. There isn't much left of it. If they want to continue fighting, Israel will be more than happy to wipe out more of it.
Cypress said:
So the odds are better than even that Trump boot-lickers are prematurely spiking footballs and popping champagne corks.
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Where are these 'boots' you keep mentioning?
Cypress said:
Have you forgotten how many times Trump has prematurely bragged about the great deals he is supposedly making?
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No. He just goes out and makes some great deals.
 
FastLane said:
When Israel attacked Iran and Trump blew up Iran's nuclear facilities it took away Hamas' money and support. Trump convinced Qatar to stop supporting Hamas financially so Hamas could not even pay their fighters. So Hamas didn't have a real choice.
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Netanyahu got the terms he asked for all along, you're right in all counts here. He's laughing his ass off at these idiots trying to spin it any other way. furthermore, if Hamas violates the deal, Trump has his back when he finishes them off once and for all.
 
EdwinA said:
Netanyahu got the terms he asked for all along, you're right in all counts here. He's laughing his ass off at these idiots trying to spin it any other way. furthermore, if Hamas violates the deal, Trump has his back when he finishes them off once and for all.
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Yes, but this is a DISASTER for the fascist democrats.

It's great for America, for Trump, for the Jews, and for the Arabs in Gaza who want to live in peace. But it is complete disaster for the democrats.

Another nail in the coffin of the party that is America's greatest shame.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Palestinians loooooove their martyrs. It's all they live for. <---pun intended

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Everyone loves their martyrs. Christians, Muslims, MAGATs (Saint Charlie got canonized today by the Orange AntiChrist). So?
 
Well, the latest is that Hamas is now holding public executions of anyone they think is a "collaborator" or "traitor" and either cooperated with Israel or is anti-Hamas. No trial, no need for actual evidence. That gets anyone so designated a bullet to the head in a brutal public execution. Already hundreds have been executed this way.

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Only the "uniforms" have changed...

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T. A. Gardner said:
Well, the latest is that Hamas is now holding public executions of anyone they think is a "collaborator" or "traitor" and either cooperated with Israel or is anti-Hamas. No trial, no need for actual evidence. That gets anyone so designated a bullet to the head in a brutal public execution. Already hundreds have been executed this way.

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Only the "uniforms" have changed...

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HAMAS did get into the IDF computers on OCt 7 and collect the names of collaborators in GAZA.....with-in days they were all dead.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, the latest is that Hamas is now holding public executions of anyone they think is a "collaborator" or "traitor" and either cooperated with Israel or is anti-Hamas. No trial, no need for actual evidence. That gets anyone so designated a bullet to the head in a brutal public execution. Already hundreds have been executed this way.

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Only the "uniforms" have changed...

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Death cult
 
Grokmaster said:
Support our terrorist enemies much?
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So, either we "all hail trump" or we're "supporting our enemies". Yeah, I remember when you guys tried that with Iraq - "if you're against the invasion you hate the troops!".

Didn't work then - won't work now.

Now, having said all that -

trump was wise to use his influence over Bibi to finally make him agree to the ceasefire - (something trump had been trying to do for months).

I hope this "ceasefire" lasts and there is a 2-state solution agreed to. If that happens, I will say, "trump is great!". So, save this post - If trump finally foments peace in the mid-east, I will gladly say it - please make me say it!
 
Earl said:
Hamas is surrounded.

They have no say in anything.

They can lay down their weapons or die.

Why don’t you go over and help them?
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Hamas' funding comes from rich donors all over the mideast. Their leadership his hanging out in Qatar right now, tiger. You should.. I don't know ... pick up a paper or something.
 
LurchAddams said:
Hamas' funding comes from rich donors all over the mideast. Their leadership his hanging out in Qatar right now, tiger. You should.. I don't know ... pick up a paper or something.
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Lots of antisemitic/pro-Palestinian terrorist supporters out there.

October 16, 2023
www.reuters.com

Who funds Hamas? A global network of crypto, cash and charities

Palestinian militant group Hamas uses a global financing network to funnel support from charities and friendly nations, passing cash through Gaza tunnels or using cryptocurrencies to bypass international sanctions, according to experts and officials.
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Matthew Levitt, a former U.S. official specialised in counterterrorism, estimated the bulk of Hamas' budget of more than $300 million came from taxes on business, as well as from countries including Iran and Qatar or charities.

Last February, the State Department said that Hamas raises funds in other Gulf countries and gets donations from Palestinians, other expatriates and its own charities.
 
LurchAddams said:
Hamas' funding comes from rich donors all over the mideast. Their leadership his hanging out in Qatar right now, tiger. You should.. I don't know ... pick up a paper or something.
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They know if they make Trump look like a fool and continue their attacks, Trump will send in a few Marine Scouts and eliminate their leaders.
 
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