Guns make for a more civilized society

Peridot said:
Well if you bought them in MO and now live in MI then no, they are not registered here. That's technically a misdemeanor, though it's about as minor as it gets here. Also, didn't you mention wanting to sell them? Because I offered to help someone with that here.
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Mr. Owl asked me to ask you "what kind of gun registry does he think there is?" He stated "Guns are not registered. Gun owners are." He also stated that when you inherit them, as I did, that you are not required to do anything. As I indicated earlier, they belonged to my late husband who had the correct state and federal permits.

My mention of selling them was more rhetorical. I am not looking to sell them to anyone currently. If someone came along who was interested, then we might talk. Thanks for your input.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Mr. Owl asked me to ask you "what kind of gun registry does he think there is?" He stated "Guns are not registered. Gun owners are." He also stated that when you inherit them, as I did, that you are not required to do anything. As I indicated earlier, they belonged to my late husband who had the correct state and federal permits.

My mention of selling them was more rhetorical. I am not looking to sell them to anyone currently. If someone came along who was interested, then we might talk. Thanks for your input.
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Your husband is incorrect. Those weapons are contraband and there are laws about storage as well that you may be inviolation of.
 
Rune said:
Your husband is incorrect. Those weapons are contraband and there are laws about storage as well that you may be inviolation of.
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I'll check with the county cop shop this week about that. As for storage, we have a locked gun safe that's taller than I am, weighs 400 lbs or something (or 97 tons, according to the moving guys lol) and is fire proof. That's where the guns live. It's good to hear that there are storage regulations... I'm assuming for both safety and to protect them from thieves?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Mr. Owl asked me to ask you "what kind of gun registry does he think there is?" He stated "Guns are not registered. Gun owners are." He also stated that when you inherit them, as I did, that you are not required to do anything. As I indicated earlier, they belonged to my late husband who had the correct state and federal permits.

My mention of selling them was more rhetorical. I am not looking to sell them to anyone currently. If someone came along who was interested, then we might talk. Thanks for your input.
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No.... gun owners are not registered. The firearms themselves are. Inherited or not, it's a violation. I don't give a fuck personally, the punishment for violation is $110 or something. It's less than double parking. I just wanted to make you aware. There are no storage regulations though, only that minors cannot access them.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I'll check with the county cop shop this week about that. As for storage, we have a locked gun safe that's taller than I am, weighs 400 lbs or something (or 97 tons, according to the moving guys lol) and is fire proof. That's where the guns live. It's good to hear that there are storage regulations... I'm assuming for both safety and to protect them from thieves?
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Both indeed.
A real gun safe should cover you but if you have ammo it may require a seperate safe.

Also, whatever you do do not store weed in the same safe as guns.
Major no go.
 
Peridot said:
No.... gun owners are not registered. The firearms themselves are. Inherited or not, it's a violation. I don't give a fuck personally, the punishment for violation is $110 or something. It's less than double parking. I just wanted to make you aware. There are no storage regulations though, only that minors cannot access them.
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Thanks. Plenty of miners here, but no minors. lol
 
Rune said:
Both indeed.
A real gun safe should cover you but if you have ammo it may require a seperate safe.
Also, whatever you do do not store weed in the same safe as guns.
Major no go.
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Hahaha.... obviously that has happened more than once to someone. I do keep a few nice jewelry items in the gun safe, as well as a family album with photos that are over 100 years ago. But no weed.

He has a bunch of reloading equipment and supplies but it's on the work bench he uses and stored in various boxes, not locked up. Prepared ammo lives in the gun safe too, but all the guns are kept unloaded. We have enough acreage here for a DIY gun range so we haven't had any need to transport them to a shooting range yet. He has several custom-made-for-him single-shot pistols that he used to use in competitive target shooting competitions. He is very, very good. All those things stay locked up in the gun safe, because they are super expensive. And loud. Very very very loud. Like so loud that even wearing sound-canceling electronic earphones, and standing 30 ft behind him -- it feels like your ears are going to burst and someone just punched you in the chest. This might explain why he has trouble hearing me when I talk, eh? lol


Thanks for your help and information, much appreciated. Peridot Billy, too.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Oh okay, thanks. What exactly is it that Rune thinks you need to fix? I looked at a couple other posts and get the idea that he thinks my guns are unregistered. They were all registered at time of purchase, and my late husband had a permit to own as well. Mr. Owl informs me that there is no legal requirement for me to seek any further registration or permits.
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Is your logic, that we accept your premise that all your guns are registered and therefore registering guns is not a problem in America? You cannot argue that your specific conditions are universal. it is veering from the subject.
 
Nordberg said:
Is your logic, that we accept your premise that all your guns are registered and therefore registering guns is not a problem in America? You cannot argue that your specific conditions are universal. it is veering from the subject.
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It was my understanding that all handguns had to be registered. I'm fine with that. My husband told me that the handguns I inherited from late husband were already registered (i.e. serial numbers logged) at time of original sale, and inheriting them changed nothing so I did not need to do anything with them other than store them safely. According to Rune and Peridot, however, that may or may not be true based on the law in our current state. Thanks for your concern.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Yeah, if only ppl would keep their guns safely locked up inside their house where thieves and small children couldn't get them. But they don't.
If only ppl didn't feel a need to buy an arsenal capable of wiping out a herd of elephants, then using it to wipe out a church full of ppl. But they do.
If only ppl didn't feel a need to allow their mentally ill son learn to shoot for his self-esteem, only to die at his hands before he wiped out 26 lives in an elementary school. But she did.

If only....
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I've said long ago, if you can't convince them, protect yourself from them.

I wasn't a huge Gun Advocate until I felt the need to protect myself from "People" who have no respect for my life ... that's EVERYONE, and that includes the people who's taken a oath to Serve and Protect.
 
Rune said:
Dude, you will not be happy until MS13 is armed with machine guns since that is their right.
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what makes you think they aren't already armed with machine guns? do you think MS13 obeys federal laws on machine guns? at the very least, we the people should have machine guns in order to prevent gang crimes in our neighborhoods.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It was my understanding that all handguns had to be registered. I'm fine with that. My husband told me that the handguns I inherited from late husband were already registered (i.e. serial numbers logged) at time of original sale, and inheriting them changed nothing so I did not need to do anything with them other than store them safely. According to Rune and Peridot, however, that may or may not be true based on the law in our current state. Thanks for your concern.
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Nope. The only state that requires handgun registration is New York. District of Columbia and Hawaii require registration of all firearms. A number of states actually prohibit the registration of firearms.
 
countryboy said:
Nope. The only state that requires handgun registration is New York. District of Columbia and Hawaii require registration of all firearms. A number of states actually prohibit the registration of firearms.
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I need to just sell them and stop fretting over the stupid state laws about having them. It's not like I use them for anything other than enjoying target shooting with the .22 rifle (which doesn't need registration anyways). I don't think my late husband would mind if they went to ppl who would appreciate and enjoy them like he did.
 
Guns make a far less civilized society. Living in fear that some nutcase is walking around with a gun, is not civilized. Respect for other citizens and their rights is civilized. being afraid that some person finding a normal life transaction is infuriating and requires shooting, is not civilized. If everyone had guns, your position would be to shoot first. You do not know how sane and mature the next armed person is.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I need to just sell them and stop fretting over the stupid state laws about having them. It's not like I use them for anything other than enjoying target shooting with the .22 rifle (which doesn't need registration anyways). I don't think my late husband would mind if they went to ppl who would appreciate and enjoy them like he did.
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As I said, your state doesn't require gun registration of any kind.
 
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