SmarterthanYou
rebel
That's a child to you?
are you unfamiliar with how child development works?
GOP talking point: if you oppose SCOTUS decision, you're against democracy
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are you unfamiliar with how child development works?
because the women in Alabama largely oppose abortion.
if you need to intervene there - why stop there. why not force your views on Mexico - then Venezuela - and just keep going?
How are abortions good?
Indeed, a baby dies.
Nope.
How are abortions good?
this is never gonna be utopia
consent of the governed is good because it requires force to fend off invasion - and if we are not giving citizens the government they want - they are not vested to defend it
so if enough of us want the "right" to kill the unborn - we would be cutting off our nose in spite of our face to deny it.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
good. then I don't have to explain how a child developing in the womb isn't the same as metamorphosis. so clearly you DO understand that a child(baby) under 26 weeks is still a baby(child)
Your developing fetus has already gone through a few name changes in the first few weeks of pregnancy. Generally, it's called an embryo from conception until the eighth week of development. After the eighth week, it's called a fetus until it's born.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/7247-fetal-development-stages-of-growth
SmarterthanYou
rebel
thank you for the link that explains the development stages of babies
You're welcome. Education is so important.
You can always tell a desperate argument by their sources. But let's assume the guardian is telling the truth, the citizens of that state, if they disagree with such laws, can vote them out and get new laws right? We call that democracy. Something you DON'T get when lawyers in black robes infer rights where none exist.
First, the claim regarding Alabama's laws = FALSE. Abortion is legal up to 22 weeks. The Human Life Protection Act, also known as House Bill 314 (HB 314) and the Alabama abortion ban, is an Alabama statute enacted on May 15, 2019, that was set to impose a near-total ban on abortion in the state starting in November 2019, but a legal challenge against the bill has delayed implementation.
Oklahoma; performing an abortion illegal in the state, with an exception only in the case of a medical emergency. This argument is sage: state Rep. Jim Olsen, SB 612's principal House author, previously told CNN that he believes "rape and incest is a horrible crime" and though the baby is conceived in a "horrible situation" that it "still has a right to life." "The baby should not be liable for the sins of the father," he said. "It's still a life." And, they can put that baby up for adoption. A vast majority of voters in that state support the law.
Missouri:Abortion cannot be prohibited at any stage of pregnancy if “health” of the mother is invoked. Therefore the Guardian is lying again.
https://missourilife.org/wp-content...mmary-of-the-Laws-on-Abortion-in-Missouri.pdf
Arkansas: In 2021, Arkansas enacted Act 309, 5-61-401, et seq., which prohibits all abortions save those necessary to save the life of the mother. A federal judge enjoined enforcement of that statute on July 20, 2021. That decision is on appeal.
Statutory Definition of Illegal Abortion
Abortions are illegal after the period of quickening, which usually occurs between 16 to 20 weeks into pregnancy.
Therefore, the Guardian is once again LYING.
Texas; SB 8, bars abortions after the detection of a fetal heartbeat at around six weeks. The Guardian is lying again.
I wish leftists weren't such lazy lying dumbasses. Really I do.
You can always tell a desperate argument by their sources. But let's assume the guardian is telling the truth, the citizens of that state, if they disagree with such laws, can vote them out and get new laws right? We call that democracy. Something you DON'T get when lawyers in black robes infer rights where none exist.
First, the claim regarding Alabama's laws = FALSE. Abortion is legal up to 22 weeks. The Human Life Protection Act, also known as House Bill 314 (HB 314) and the Alabama abortion ban, is an Alabama statute enacted on May 15, 2019, that was set to impose a near-total ban on abortion in the state starting in November 2019, but a legal challenge against the bill has delayed implementation.
Oklahoma; performing an abortion illegal in the state, with an exception only in the case of a medical emergency. This argument is sage: state Rep. Jim Olsen, SB 612's principal House author, previously told CNN that he believes "rape and incest is a horrible crime" and though the baby is conceived in a "horrible situation" that it "still has a right to life." "The baby should not be liable for the sins of the father," he said. "It's still a life." And, they can put that baby up for adoption. A vast majority of voters in that state support the law.
Missouri:Abortion cannot be prohibited at any stage of pregnancy if “health” of the mother is invoked. Therefore the Guardian is lying again.
https://missourilife.org/wp-content...mmary-of-the-Laws-on-Abortion-in-Missouri.pdf
Arkansas: In 2021, Arkansas enacted Act 309, 5-61-401, et seq., which prohibits all abortions save those necessary to save the life of the mother. A federal judge enjoined enforcement of that statute on July 20, 2021. That decision is on appeal.
Statutory Definition of Illegal Abortion
Abortions are illegal after the period of quickening, which usually occurs between 16 to 20 weeks into pregnancy.
Therefore, the Guardian is once again LYING.
Texas; SB 8, bars abortions after the detection of a fetal heartbeat at around six weeks. The Guardian is lying again.
I wish leftists weren't such lazy lying dumbasses. Really I do.
You realize that Roe v. Wade is still in effect, right?
How is it a privacy issue? That's another stupid and weak argument. First, it isn't her body when it is about an unborn fetus. The fetus is a separate being with its own DNA, blood type, and gender. She isn't killing herself, she is killing the unborn baby.
There are a myriad of things that a person can’t do in the name of privacy. A person cannot do drugs (excluding marijuana in some places) and simply get away with it, even though it is his body that is affected by the drugs. A person, in most places, cannot prostitute themselves, even though it is their body.
Another stupid and specious strawman argument. You seem to be quite full of them. And you wonder why people point at you and laugh?
Yes you are. You always do. That's what fools do. They engage in deflecting, strawmen and in many cases, outright falsehoods to defend the indefensible leftist ideology.
Another strawman. I don't think you can post without strawmen and painfully stupid lies.