No, you really aren't. If you were, you wouldn't make contradicting arguments lacking any facts or substance while emoting like a dumb leftist.
GOP talking point: if you oppose SCOTUS decision, you're against democracy
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No, you really aren't. If you were, you wouldn't make contradicting arguments lacking any facts or substance while emoting like a dumb leftist.
BartenderElite
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If men had to fight for their rights like women do, the country would just be a pile of smoldering ashes at this point.
Correct.
A victim of rape is akin to a person forced to commit a crime.
They are not responsible for that crime or its results.
SmarterthanYou
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we are people living in a world populated with people............of course it's a problem.............
No, you really aren't. If you were, you wouldn't make contradicting arguments lacking any facts or substance while emoting like a dumb leftist.
You're just angry that your argument failed once you realize that everyone is aware about the double homicide.
What argument and why is it stupid?
SmarterthanYou
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now THAT is an appeal to emotion
Men and women have fought and died for our Constitutional Republic and the rights enumerated in the Constitution, of which the right to abortion is not included.
Riddle me this... is this a child?
Why is that not an unborn child? What do you think it is? Non-living tissue? That's rather stupid.
Nope. That happens to dictatorship countries. See Ukraine for recent example.
BartenderElite
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I guess I'm more practical. For starters, we have too many people. I don't think a clump of cells w/ no consciousness has the same rights as a citizen (I get that this is just my take, but I simply don't look at it that way). I have said that it gets more murky as time goes on. I don't think women decide to have a baby when they have sex. And I think there are a lot of circumstances where they do NOT decide, but would be forced to carry to term if abortion was banned.
Clearly, we disagree on most of this. My experience with abortion discussions is that they don't really go anywhere, because everyone has personal feelings on it that are pretty entrenched.
I'm bailing for the day, but wanted to say that I appreciate the civil discourse on the topic. It's rare here. Even though these discussions don't go anywhere, I like engaging in them, and learn from them.
Who is "they?" Do you have a link to your claims? How is that relevant?
How are the irrelevant in a debate about abortions?
Why is that not an unborn child? What do you think it is? Non-living tissue? That's rather stupid.
That's a child to you?
we are you still fighting against consent of the governed?
why can't citizens of Alabama govern as they see fit - why do you have to be an authoritarian here?
BartenderElite
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Rights are rights. Why do women in Alabama have fewer rights than women in Massachusetts?
SmarterthanYou
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you're splitting hairs and ignoring my words. I never said that women DECIDE to have a baby when they DECIDE to have sex. I said that they KNOW there is a possibility when they decide. I also don't believe rape victims should be forced to carry to term.
I thank you for the civil discourse. see you tomorrow
Semantic disputes are not genuine disputes at all
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