GOP Attacks Citizen Led Initiatives

RB 60 said:
I don't care how many people vote, as long as they are American citizens registered to vote and they only vote once.
No mail in ballots, except for the elderly, handicapped and current service members.
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A number of states have been using mail in ballots for quite some time, so what's the problem? Might it have to do with mail in balloting creating a much larger voter turnout?
So yes, absolutely, you care about seeing that fewer people vote.
 
Grokmaster said:
Republicans are using the authority given to them BY THE ELECTORATE, to make sure that the CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS of the 2020 ELECTION, ARE NOT REPEATED, AND TO PREVENT RADICAL BULLSHIT FROM BEING ON THE BALLOT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT VOTER SUPPORT.
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Indeed.
 
floridafan said:
A number of states have been using mail in ballots for quite some time, so what's the problem? Might it have to do with mail in balloting creating a much larger voter turnout?
So yes, absolutely, you care about seeing that fewer people vote.
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No. It's all about being too lazy to go vote at the polls like the rest of us.
 
Flash said:
Having significant voter support is the purpose for requiring a designated number of signatures on the petition to put the item on the ballot. States already do this.

No state or federal court found any constitutional violations in the 2020 election. It is just whining by those who can't accept losing and need a scapegoat to blame it on.
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You mean this whining?

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...lest we forget.
 
Grokmaster said:
Republicans are using the authority given to them BY THE ELECTORATE, to make sure that the CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS of the 2020 ELECTION, ARE NOT REPEATED, AND TO PREVENT RADICAL BULLSHIT FROM BEING ON THE BALLOT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT VOTER SUPPORT.
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Why should Republicans be trusted with an election when they clearly TRIED to steal the 2020 election? Or do you deny that fake electors were sent to interfere?
 
RB 60 said:
No. It's all about being too lazy to go vote at the polls like the rest of us.
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IS there something wrong with making it easy for people to vote and not have to stand in long lines, especially where states will not allow someone to bring you food or water. We are back to the same topic, that you will support anything that keeps people from voting.
 
martin said:
Republicans and other Right wingers are attacking our democratic values and institutions on multiple fronts. The phony Stolen Election campaign hit one stone wall after another but it has not given up. Rather it is being expanded. Republicans are trying to wrest control of traditionally non partisan functions such as voting registration. Most recently, ballot initiatives seeking to protect state abortion rights, voting rights, and legalizing marijuana are being attacked, not the initiatives themselves but the right to even conduct them.


https://apnews.com/article/2022-mid...al-marijuana-0c003046cc981ebcfb38fa77c1455737

It's a dangerous time in America, not the first time we've faced one.
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Thankfully, they were unsuccessful here in Michigan from preventing two citizen initiatives -- constitutional amendments protecting abortion rights and expanding voting rights -- from being on November's ballots.
 
RB 60 said:
No. It's all about being too lazy to go vote at the polls like the rest of us.
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Laziness has nothing to do with it. Most ppl under the age of 65 are still working, most of them FT. If you are a nurse or other hospital staffer working 12s, you work from 7a-7p if you're lucky enough to have day shift. Ditto for LEOs, firefighters, paramedics, SNF staff, business owners, etc. Some of us live in places where the November climate is dicey and often dangerous to drive in. Some of us are elderly, and maybe don't drive any more, or shouldn't. Some of us like mail-in balloting because it gives you the luxury of looking up the candidates and where they stand on the issues, as you fill it out. Some of us don't care to stand in line with people who have colds, the flu, COVID.

Many of us have deplored low voter turnout over the years. To me the height of patriotism is casting my ballot. I was given that right by the blood of men and women who fought and died for us; to not vote is to dishonor them. I want everyone to vote and if that means making it easier, so much the better.

The problem with Republicans is they know that higher voter turnout means more likelihood that they will lose, or so they believe. Interestingly, Alaskan -- which you'll agree is solidly in the red state category -- has had vote-by-mail for years, yet (R)s consistently win there. If you're afraid of the voters, then maybe there is something wrong with you and your policies, not something wrong with the voters.
 
RB 60 said:
No. It's all about being too lazy to go vote at the polls like the rest of us.
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What about elderly people, Arbie? People who still have their wits but lack mobility? What about people who have to work on election day or are out of town? Why do you seek to disenfranchise them?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Laziness has nothing to do with it. Most ppl under the age of 65 are still working, most of them FT. If you are a nurse or other hospital staffer working 12s, you work from 7a-7p if you're lucky enough to have day shift. Ditto for LEOs, firefighters, paramedics, SNF staff, business owners, etc. Some of us live in places where the November climate is dicey and often dangerous to drive in. Some of us are elderly, and maybe don't drive any more, or shouldn't. Some of us like mail-in balloting because it gives you the luxury of looking up the candidates and where they stand on the issues, as you fill it out. Some of us don't care to stand in line with people who have colds, the flu, COVID.

Many of us have deplored low voter turnout over the years. To me the height of patriotism is casting my ballot. I was given that right by the blood of men and women who fought and died for us; to not vote is to dishonor them. I want everyone to vote and if that means making it easier, so much the better.

The problem with Republicans is they know that higher voter turnout means more likelihood that they will lose, or so they believe. Interestingly, Alaskan -- which you'll agree is solidly in the red state category -- has had vote-by-mail for years, yet (R)s consistently win there. If you're afraid of the voters, then maybe there is something wrong with you and your policies, not something wrong with the voters.
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Good job! And faster than me. LOL
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Thankfully, they were unsuccessful here in Michigan from preventing two citizen initiatives -- constitutional amendments protecting abortion rights and expanding voting rights -- from being on November's ballots.
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Seems like a lot of posters here from Michigan. I bet you could put the "all" in a phone booth, with room to spare.
 
Both parties are HORRIFIC.

It is amazing that in 2022, so many of you ignorant masses still do not see that.

How many times do both of them have to fail ROYALLY before you all will get it through your heads?

Probably never...most of you seem hopeless in your 'the other side is evil' childish nonsense.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Laziness has nothing to do with it. Most ppl under the age of 65 are still working, most of them FT. If you are a nurse or other hospital staffer working 12s, you work from 7a-7p if you're lucky enough to have day shift. Ditto for LEOs, firefighters, paramedics, SNF staff, business owners, etc. Some of us live in places where the November climate is dicey and often dangerous to drive in. Some of us are elderly, and maybe don't drive any more, or shouldn't. Some of us like mail-in balloting because it gives you the luxury of looking up the candidates and where they stand on the issues, as you fill it out. Some of us don't care to stand in line with people who have colds, the flu, COVID.

Many of us have deplored low voter turnout over the years. To me the height of patriotism is casting my ballot. I was given that right by the blood of men and women who fought and died for us; to not vote is to dishonor them. I want everyone to vote and if that means making it easier, so much the better.

The problem with Republicans is they know that higher voter turnout means more likelihood that they will lose, or so they believe. Interestingly, Alaskan -- which you'll agree is solidly in the red state category -- has had vote-by-mail for years, yet (R)s consistently win there. If you're afraid of the voters, then maybe there is something wrong with you and your policies, not something wrong with the voters.
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A big factor is our workday voting. For retired Republicans living on IRA's, etc. and others employed but not locked into mandatory hours at the plant or wherever this is less an issue than it is with Democrat blue collar workers. Democrats have often proposed making national election days national holidays but Republicans understand their advantage and won't agree to it.
 
martin said:
Republicans and other Right wingers are attacking our democratic values and institutions on multiple fronts. The phony Stolen Election campaign hit one stone wall after another but it has not given up. Rather it is being expanded. Republicans are trying to wrest control of traditionally non partisan functions such as voting registration. Most recently, ballot initiatives seeking to protect state abortion rights, voting rights, and legalizing marijuana are being attacked, not the initiatives themselves but the right to even conduct them.


https://apnews.com/article/2022-mid...al-marijuana-0c003046cc981ebcfb38fa77c1455737

It's a dangerous time in America, not the first time we've faced one.
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yes. the dems are unhinged baby murderers who want to normalize pedophilia, send all the jobs away, and cull the population.

:truestory:
 
Grokmaster said:
Republicans are using the authority given to them BY THE ELECTORATE, to make sure that the CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS of the 2020 ELECTION, ARE NOT REPEATED, AND TO PREVENT RADICAL BULLSHIT FROM BEING ON THE BALLOT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT VOTER SUPPORT.
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Republicans my ass.

TRUMPTARDS and Republicans are not necessarily the same thing anymore.

There are millions of Republicans that have defected over to the Democrats until they can remove all of Donald Trump's shit stains he has left on the Republican Party!

The Mid-Terms are going to be a huge win for the Democrats because of this huge divide in the Republican Party caused by TRUMP and his TRUMPTARDS- who hijacked the party and wrecked it.

Yet, morons like OPie Dopey are still clinging to Trump like flies on SHIT! :laugh:
 
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Grokmaster said:
Republicans are using the authority given to them BY THE ELECTORATE, to make sure that the CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS of the 2020 ELECTION, ARE NOT REPEATED, AND TO PREVENT RADICAL BULLSHIT FROM BEING ON THE BALLOT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT VOTER SUPPORT.
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If Republicans don't want a Stolen Election claim to be repeated for the midterms they may only have to convince Trump to keep his mouth shut and not send them frolicking into the wilderness as he did in 2020. Then, as you remember, though he was behind in all the polls he announced that Biden could only win a stolen election. That was in August, friend. He knew he was likely to lose, and the polls continued showing him losing right up to election day. But he had planted the seed two months before. All he had to do was make it grow. Sadly, we see it coming again. Spreading distrust for personal gain is the poison that may be killing democracy in the United States before our eyes.
 
martin said:
If Republicans don't want a Stolen Election claim to be repeated for the midterms they may only have to convince Trump to keep his mouth shut and not send them frolicking into the wilderness as he did in 2020. Then, as you remember, though he was behind in all the polls he announced that Biden could only win a stolen election. That was in August, friend. He knew he was likely to lose, and the polls continued showing him losing right up to election day. But he had planted the seed two months before. All he had to do was make it grow. Sadly, we see it coming again. Spreading distrust for personal gain is the poison that may be killing democracy in the United States before our eyes.
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The Republican leadership saw a fork in the road; support Trump's lies or support conservative ideals. They've already made their choice and will have to live with the consequences.
 
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